Hi Geggy

[Grislygus]

Originally Posted by kahljorn

Also why do you demand that he explain the conspiracy theory in his own words? Did he commit the crime? Does he need to have some special trademarked form of truth that he invented? What's wrong with taking the "most educated" ideas and running with them? You don't need to be Isaac Newton to believe in or talk about gravity, so it doesn't really make sense that Geggy would have to write his own story/ideas for this conspiracy theory in order for it to be true. Regardless of if geggy explains this to your liking or not, the situation and the truth of the matter doesn't really change

HE is trying to convince OTHER PEOPLE that there was indeed a conspiracy on 9/11. If I was even to begin to take him seriously, he needed to simply explain his own opinion, in his own words, something which I think he has now done, even if I myself am not convinced.

You speak of the using most educated ideas and running with them, that you "don't need to be Isaac Newton to understand gravity".

Maybe so, but if I'm trying to convince someone else that gravity exists, I say to them "you know when an apple falls to the ground? That is because the earth exerts a gravitational pull on said object". I'm not going to throw out every single damned scientific document I can get my hands on, nor pull in five million experts that are going to say very intelligent sounding things with very subtle points that are going to go right over my audience's head.

Because, since I am 'in the know', and I want to prove it to my audience, it is therefore my job to translate these facts simply, and in my own words, so that my heretofore ignorant audience can understand.

NOW, that being said, he had previously made ginormous posts quoting many, many experts that I have never heard of. I requested that, in the interest of convincing me, that he simply state, in his own words, what a main focal point of his argument was.

He did so admirably, and I now know that he does indeed know what he's talking about, and he's not just mindlessly spouting off other people's work.

Originally Posted by kahljorn

I don't know guys all this, "Just give me one discrepency" stuff is kind of weird. Geggy points out discrepencies all the time, I dare say that's about all he does! The entire 9/11 conspiracy theory is based on various discrepencies, whether it's from the lack of a report, the lack of scientific analysis of the rubble, lack of "Evidence" towards anything etc..
Those are discrepencies, if mixed up medical reports are a discrepency than all of those are discrepencies.

As I have before stated, many of these discrepencies rely on the assumption that the government is lying. I was eager to hear a single, simple discrepency that he himself pointed out, instead of merely quoting someone. He has now done so, I am satisfied.

Now, I should really, really let the "mixed up medical reports" comment go, because this thread is about 9/11, not JFK. However, I can't, because I'm human and your statement irks me.

Let me explain this "mixed up medical reports" thing once again, in more detail.

According to the offical FBI x-rays, there is a giant hole in JFK's head. According to the official FBI autopsy photos, there is not.

Either the FBI f*cked up on a scale previously unheard of in the entire history of mankind, or something funny's going on.

(Sorry guys, please continue.)