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Old Sep 12th, 2006, 01:43 PM       
Geggy so far through my reading alot of what you've said has been false. Also I'm pretty sure you didn't read my post.

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So they had to rely on computer models of the towers further their analysis in which they've refused to release to the public and I find it suspicious.
As far as I can tell the following link is their computer models and simulations:
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/r...simulation.htm

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They've also found sulfur oxide on some of the steel they had retrieved.
I'll get back to you on this since the metalurgy reports are making my computer freeze up.

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The highest temprature point in any of the steel they had in their hands were 250 degrees.
I don't know geggy if you had a 250 degree piece of steel in your hand I think it would burn alot. haha just kidding wanted to see if you were paying attention.

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"I had a lot of problems with their report because they didn't cover a lot of things that characterized controlled demolition ie puff of smokes ejecting demostrating squibs,"
actually they did detail this and I was waiting for you to ask:
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These puffs were observed at many locations as the towers collapsed... they had the appearance of jets of gas being pushed from the building.... Such jets are expected since the air inside the building is compressed as the tower falls and must flow somewhere as the pressure builds. It is significant that similar “puffs” were observed numerous times on the fire floors in both towers prior to their collapses..."
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I think the steel in the wtc were grade A certified steel and it wouldn't have had mattered if the fireproof had been knocked off because grade A steel melts at 2750-3000 degrees.
Right but if you read the report it also says that when steel is heated to 2000 degrees is loses 90% of it's structural integrity. If you think about it that actually makes alot of sense. Have you ever tried to melt metal or something before? It's funny when things melt they go through various stages of melting, kind of like an icecube, at some states they are entirely solid, and at others they are half liquid half solid. So if the steel columns were half liquid and half solid they wouldn't be able to support the building anymore.

Some other things for you to consider:

(1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large, jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires weakened the now susceptible structural steel. No building in the United States has ever been subjected to the massive structural damage and concurrent multi-floor fires that the towers experienced on Sept. 11, 2001.

Instead, photographs and videos from several angles clearly show that the collapse initiated at the fire and impact floors and that the collapse progressed from the initiating floors downward until the dust clouds obscured the view.
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