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Old Apr 14th, 2003, 08:19 PM       
I agree, I loved "Batman Returns". I think in that movie, it worked. But I think one of the main reasons it DID work is the ambiguity of Catwoman's morality (always somewhere in between hero and villain) and the fact that it was believable that the two characters would work together like they did (and they obviously didn't trust each other anyway, as it turned out).

Two-Face and the Riddler didn't make as much sense together, and in that movie what really hurt the villains was that neither one of them was developed to a satisfying degree.

As for Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy...that was fucking ridiculous. Those two had completely diametrically opposing end goals. Kind of hard for plants to thrive when the world is a fucking icebox, isn't it?

I think that "Batman Returns" pulled it off well, but in the hands of bumbling, inept film makers who wanted to copy the trend it started it spelled doom for the franchise. I know it was technically just Schumacher, but there were talks of another villain team-up in Batman 5, to be directed by someone else who was never exactly determined...and the rumors were saying it would have been Scarecrow and Harlequin...what the fuck??
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