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Old Dec 2nd, 2006, 05:58 PM       
"Wha?!?!"

I was just exagerating obviously.

"First you say government AND society"

Government is a social institution designed for overall stability of the society and mandates many things within that society. That's kind of the entire point of Government, to help control society. That's why it's called "Govern"ment.

"Notice you did not factor in for any sort of personal responsibility or that of a parent to her child."

I think the parent is responsible for the child but if the parent has the intellectual capacity of a child because they weren't prepared or raised properly (which again could be faults of the grandparents, or sometimes the fault of the government/people for repressing those people into a bad lifestyle) then you can't really expect much out of them. The only mediator in situations like that is government mandated social programs that abound such as public education and civil rights. Also notice that children being perpetuated into fucktards is perpetual, there could be entire family lines of fucktards. Keep that in mind for my next paragraph.
It's not so much that I blame the government or society as much as that i think the government or society is often the only possible objective, responsible party in many situations. I don't know why I have to explain this it's probably because you always maintain your rugged individualism perspective.
Relying on people to learn from their own mistakes is pretty ridiculous given the history of the human race so you know I take the route of understanding that people understand shit all when they come into reality and develop their thoughts via social involvement and some other things.

"Secondly, consumption of of low quality food and durable goods, which is, as I said, wrong, is it's own punishment usually. "

How does that punish people who purposely build low quality, often dysfunctional, items so they can get a bunch of money for themselves? Also, I know I didn't mention this before but doesn't "Wasting resources" also imply that high quality items will also raise in price as a result of the production of low quality items? So you see this can have other relevant "macro" aspects besides kindling people's weaknesses.

"Sure, it would be nice if government schools and parents actually spent more time preparing people to understand extremely basic realities such as this, but, sadly, we don't live in that world. "

Yea because out of all the things we do and strive for in the world that would be a huge waste of time and we should completely ignore it in exchange for having big egos. I mean seriously man that entire statement is shitting in the face of the history of social and civilized progression and it's pointless to maintain that society and the functioning of the human race doesn't rely on our aquintance with reality.
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