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Old Mar 26th, 2007, 04:45 PM       
First of all, the movie sucks as "art". But that's beside the point.

Someone who uses his or her "artistic license" to create a movie that glorifies the KKK should not be immune to criticism, either. Face it--the movie makes a political statement about different peoples that isn't just wrong, but intentionally, and horrifyingly so. This is not a literal retelling of Herodotus, but Frank Miller's worldview.

The fact you even recognize that the portrayal of America is often one-sided, and decline to challenge that, makes you part of the problem.
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Old Mar 31st, 2007, 02:09 AM       
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First of all, the movie sucks as "art". But that's beside the point.

This is not a literal retelling of Herodotus, but Frank Miller's worldview.
Are you saying Herodotus wasn't racist? I dunno, maybe, but most of those ancient greeks were pretty anti-persian. Ever read the Persian Expedition? The point is is that the ancient Greeks saw themselves as valuing freedom and reason and piety and so forth better than the rest of the world. Furthermore, they saw their freedom and reason and piety and so forth as being the sources of their military success. (One of the things I didn't like about the movie that was applying contemporary worldviews on to the story was the contempt for religion by most of the Greek protaganists.) But ya, basically, that's the way people all the time everywhere act and think if you look at history, (the Persians were themselves not especially tolerant back in that day either, and hey, they're still pretty intolerant today!) basically up until the last couple decades when brilliant people like the apportioner came along and realized that all these myths were just racist justifications for power and so forth. But I think such people should let the atavists have their fun once in a while, I mean, human beings have been acting and thinking like this since forever, you can't expect them all to give it up just because you read some book about post-colonialism.
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Old Mar 31st, 2007, 02:35 AM       
the spartans (and several other greek states) didn't have an issued weapon and armor, everyone had to buy their own crap and keep it maintained themselves, I though they had this going on and there would be guys with cool custom shields and stuff.
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