Shooting at Virginia Tech

[kahljorn]

lol, those phelps guys are jerks -- this is the first ive ever heard of them. Does freespeech extend to bias and stupidity? Like if we had a protest that all black people are stupid and have low intelligence and shouldn't be allowed in school, it wouldn't be allowed because it's untrue -- some might say because it's "racist", but i think it's wrong because it's untrue and perpetuates fallacy, which is what racism is.

Actually i think guns that have the serial filed off are usually "Legal," to some extent, because there's no point in filing off the serial of something that doesn't belong to you anyway, since it couldn't be traced to you. Balistics can match the gun, anyway, regardless of serial.


Metal, I'd agree with you, but those articles I posted have a clear causal connection between gun laws (one gun law) and the prevention of crime. Although, obviously, it has little affect on criminal possession of guns.

that'd be cool proto, I'm curious as to if it's difficult to get one. To be honest, I know one person who has a concealed permit, and most people would probably think he shouldn't have it, but he hasn't been convicted of any crimes that I know of...

[Preechr]

I know its pretty easy where I live. Basically, you just have to say you need to have a concealed weapon to be safe doing something you do regularly, like taking cash to the bank. They do a background check, but most people can pass that.

To test further or to require cc permits for handguns wouldn't pass Constitutional muster. The NRA could defeat that while sleeping with one arm tied behind it's back.

As MM indicated, the only thing that will decrease gun violence effectively or even at all is gun owners all of a sudden becoming, somehow, more responsible. Since the world we live in seems to be increasingly all about ceding any and all personal responsibility to our employers and our government, I doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon.

On that note, I work in schools a lot, and I've noticed a pretty much standardized rule pertaining to fighting in school. I'm sure some of you younger folks are familiar with it, but this sort of mentality simply did not exist when I was younger... If there is a fight, everyone involved is punished equally, regardless of who started it or anything else.

Back in MY day (lol) school administrators would sit down with the combatants and try to figure out what had happened and mete out appropriate punishments. That paradigm has shifted, and even pure self-defense is no longer acceptable.

The same progressive mentality that has spawned the concept basically any reprehensible behavior between adults is generally understandable on some level due to "environmental factors" has also given us two generations of drugged out kids with "ADHD" and the above rule that only seems to exist to punish victims of assault and "environmentally" condition children to be defenseless, needy cow-people.

Now we see a scenario where 25 of these conditioned children lined up to be murdered one at a time. It only gets worse from here, people.

[Abcdxxxx]

Nice martyrs video.
Can we expect "Ishmael Ax" trading cards?