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Old May 8th, 2003, 06:02 PM        Commercializing war or religion
I'm considering doing a column on war or religion being exploited for commercial use. I'm thinking action figures, games etc. Can you guys contibute with examples? I'm of course thinking as bizarre as possible.
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Old May 8th, 2003, 07:06 PM       
http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net/

That work for you? I'm not sure if its real or a parody.
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Old May 8th, 2003, 07:10 PM       
Parody. Fun, though.
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Old May 8th, 2003, 07:15 PM        Re: Commercializing war or religion
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I'm considering doing a column on war or religion being exploited for commercial use. I'm thinking action figures, games etc. Can you guys contibute with examples? I'm of course thinking as bizarre as possible.
Do the nazi toys in the Hitlerific toys Minimock for it. I actually haven't seen any 'war on religion' type toys. Outlawed probably.
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Old May 8th, 2003, 07:28 PM       
war OR religion.
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Old May 8th, 2003, 07:57 PM       
Read up on Perle's seminars on how to profit from the Iraq conflict.
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Old May 8th, 2003, 08:20 PM       
Anybody up for a game of cards?
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Old May 8th, 2003, 08:23 PM       
Hehe, already got that one.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 01:02 PM       
Pjalne, if you download Kazaa and put "Bugs Bunny" in the search engine, you will probably find some invaluable stuff.

Please note that I used to be the biggest Bugs Bunny fan in the world untill, I saw these banned cartoons!

I've known (for a while now) that most of the cartoons made in those days were made and used as propaganda but, not that they were as violent, nor as racist as the ones I saw.
Can you imagine Bugs kill Japanese soldiers, or call them insulting names?
What I saw there, turned me off of my favorite cartoon figure..... It was a VERY sad sad day in the life of zosi.

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Old May 9th, 2003, 04:02 PM       
Oh wow, I've been looking for those banned Bugs cartoons.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 04:14 PM       
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Oh wow, I've been looking for those banned Bugs cartoons.
Fatsatan, is that sarcasm seeping out you, or are you serious ?
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Old May 9th, 2003, 04:39 PM       
No, I'm serious. A few years ago I saw a small article in a newspaper about old Bugs Bunny cartoons that WB had tried to make disappear or something, in which Bugs made some racist jokes, among others about eskimos. I thought it'd be hilarious to see those. Or a little shocking. Or both.

I'll do a search on them, but the only computer with net access I have has a very small hard drive. If they're big files, I'll probably have no luck getting them without my PC bursting its seams.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 05:15 PM       
If you can make space on your drive for Kazaa (if you don't have it already) I can recommend downloading Kazaa-lite. The "lite" version is exactly the same as Kazaa, the only difference being: it doesn't have all the ads and banners interrupting you all the time.

A word of warning, these Bugs-versions can and will make you sick... if you really love Bugs, don't even bother getting hold of these, they'll just depress you.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 05:25 PM       
FatSatan, I have LOADS of politically incorrect cartoons from the 30s and 40s; Warner Bros, Disney, and others. If you are interested, I can make copies of the CDs or burn them to DVD-Rs. Just let me know. Sure, they are a sad chapter in history, but I preserve them so that that time is never forgetten.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 05:29 PM       
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A word of warning, these Bugs-versions can and will make you sick... if you really love Bugs, don't even bother getting hold of these, they'll just depress you.
They didn't make me sick, but I don't laud them either. They didn't change my opinion of Bugs Bunny either. You make it out like Bugs is a real being that conciously did what he did in those cartoons. I look past that because it is the mature thing to do. By your logic, I shouldn't buy anything Mitsubishi because they built the Japanese Zero fighters, or Ford because someone in the past made the misguided decision to support the Nazis. Try growing up.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 05:49 PM       
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You make it out like Bugs is a real being that conciously did what he did in those cartoons.
what? you mean Bugs isn't real???????????

I only meant that it was saddening to hear Bugs throw out racist slurs, and then as though that wasn't enough I watched him actually start killing people...
He has been my hero since I was 3 and why? For always being the smartest and coolest....

Racism =

Hearing Bugs talk racist and start murdering=

apart from that....oooh, I think I can can get over it..... :/
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Old May 9th, 2003, 05:59 PM       
If you delineate people by the color of their skin or by their regional origin, then you are racist. Wow, that includes pretty much everyone on the planet. Imagine that. Prejudice based on race, however, is an entirely different thing and is reprehensible at best. people want others to stop treating them differently, yet wish to retain what makes them different from others. "Stop treating us differently; stop treating us the same" is the mantra of many groups out there. They will never get anywhere on those ideas.
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Old May 9th, 2003, 06:24 PM       
Eh, it was Bugs from another time when stuff like that was more acceptable... I guess.

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FatSatan, I have LOADS of politically incorrect cartoons from the 30s and 40s; Warner Bros, Disney, and others. If you are interested, I can make copies of the CDs or burn them to DVD-Rs. Just let me know. Sure, they are a sad chapter in history, but I preserve them so that that time is never forgetten.
Much thanks for the offer, but I'd probably watch them once and then be done with them. I do have Kazaa Lite, so I'll have a looksee.
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Old May 10th, 2003, 05:03 AM       
I just did a term paper on those cartoons. They're pretty fucking out there.
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Old May 10th, 2003, 12:06 PM       
Have you ever looked into the political cartoons of Dr. Seuss (Theodor Seuss Geisel, 1904-1991). Some of them were, while not risque for their time, would probably not even manage to exist in today's PC world. It's not like it ended when he began writing children's books either. Many, if not all, are severely, politically pointed:

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Old May 12th, 2003, 07:55 PM       
God, could you all be any more self important?

"I'm keeping these cartoons so this part of history will never be forgotten."

God, man, don't wear your arm out patting yourself on the back.
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Old May 12th, 2003, 09:55 PM        Neat
Zero - if you would be willing to extend that offer to me I would super appreciate it. Heck, I'd even pay you for your time.

I have a small collection of propaganda films / documentaries. I'd love to add these to the collection. Yeah, I'm a freak.
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Old May 12th, 2003, 09:58 PM        LOL
And um Vince....

Pot....kettle....black......
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Old May 12th, 2003, 10:49 PM        Re: Neat
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Zero - if you would be willing to extend that offer to me I would super appreciate it. Heck, I'd even pay you for your time.

I have a small collection of propaganda films / documentaries. I'd love to add these to the collection. Yeah, I'm a freak.
All I would ask is that you provide a DVD or two to burn them on since they take up a lot of CDs. I'll figure out how many it will take and get back to you in a PM.
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