Universal Health Care

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

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They'll probably do that too and just blame it on a nameless "terrorists". The health rationing is much easier because people have been trained to just blame a persons lifestyle on their disease and move on. They won't question why they were denied care. They'll just say something similar to......

"Oh, he got brain tumors cause he talked on the phone too much"

"Oh, he got cancer cause he smoked"

"Oh, she got pancreatic cancer because she drank too much soda"

They rationalize the death, are happy its not them, and move on. Kind of like when an animal gets killed. The whole flock runs away and leaves the one animal to get eaten. They don't think about it after. They just go about there business. It didn't happen to me, why should I care?

[Zhukov]

Rationing health care is not easier than rounding people up and gassing them. The Nazis killed millions and millions of people in a few short years, and only stopped because they lost a war. Why not gas people instead of ration their health care and wait for them to die from disease or injury?

Furthermore, the death rates attributed to 'lack of health care'; where someone could have been saved had they gotten proper treatment, are so far behind the birth rate that it should not be even slightly taken in to consideration. In the US or any other country. The amount of people dying from preventative illness doesn't slow down the amount of people being born into this world every year. It's hardly effectively culling the population if more people are born than die.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

Rationing health care is not easier than rounding people up and gassing them. The Nazis killed millions and millions of people in a few short years, and only stopped because they lost a war. Why not gas people instead of ration their health care and wait for them to die from disease or injury?

Let me first start out by saying this is all hypothetical. I don't know if they are really trying to kill us. It certainly looks that way but who knows.

We all know now there are Death panels in the new obama healthcare bill. This has been proven time and time again and it will be focused directly at the US population.

But since we are on this speculative train let me just say that the combination of tainted food, rationing of care, toxic medicine, and environmental pollution will probably out do Stalin and Hitler in the murder department.

That's just my opinion though. You have to remember that the USA is the most sickest nation in the world. Also, the US government / Corporations can go around machine gunning people. That might actually wake people up to what is going on. They need to do it incrementally. Very slowly so no one notices.

[Colonel Flagg]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

We all know now there are Death panels in the new obama healthcare bill.

Uh, no. No we don't. Has anyone agreed with you yet on this point?

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

You have to remember that the USA is the most sickest nation in the world.

I'm guessing some countries in Eastern Europe, Africa, South and Central America, or Southeast Asia could have something to say about that. Mexico too.

Reread your posts so they make sense, killer.

[Zhukov]

Originally Posted by kahljorn

Do you want to have to pay for people's fat reduction surgeries/liver transplants because they are alcoholics/abortions?

I certainly don't want my tax dollars going towards abortions getting a new liver. FUCK THAT.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Let me first start out by saying this is all hypothetical. I don't know if they are really trying to kill us. It certainly looks that way but who knows.

Wha? WHY DID YOU LINK THAT VIDEO THEN? WTF. You piss and rant about people not watching your videos, and then when someone DOES, you try to distance yourself from it. What was the point of the video? The guy TELLS us that the oligarchs are in charge, and have always been, and that they are aiming for a population culled of all poor people. That was what the video was about... why make us watch it if you get embarrassed when someone ACTUALLY watches it and points out how absurd it is? If the idea is one that you don't actually believe in, why whinge and cry to get us to watch it?

Are you not so sure that a "death panel" is genocide anymore?

The truth is you never actually expected anyone to watch it, you just wanted to post it to tell yourself that you proved everything you ever said. Hell, I bet you just randomly picked that video.

Originally Posted by Cools

We all know now there are Death panels in the new obama healthcare bill. This has been proven time and time again and it will be focused directly at the US population.

That's an interesting thought. It's focused directly at the US population, ok. So the holding back of funds for health care is focused directly at the US population... does that mean that non-US citizens will get health care? I mean, if they are focusing all their non-health care on US citizens, I guess that means that everyone else can come get a slice of the pie. Actually I'm just taking the piss out of you here. I mean, who else will anything to do with US public health care be focused on if not the US population?

Originally Posted by nutter

But since we are on this speculative train let me just say that the combination of tainted food, rationing of care, toxic medicine, and environmental pollution will probably out do Stalin and Hitler in the murder department.

According to your link Stalin and Hitler were oligarchs as well, and part of the same system. Also, what sort of time frames are we looking at? Are we talking Obama's administration? Do you believe that rationing of care, "tainted food", "toxic medicine" and pollution will kill more people during Obama's term in office than Stalin or Hitler?

That's just my opinion though. You have to remember that the USA is the most sickest nation in the world. Also, the US government / Corporations can go around machine gunning people. That might actually wake people up to what is going on. They need to do it incrementally. Very slowly so no one notices.

How slowly is slowly? Your video says that the oligarchs have been in control at least since 340BC, how long does it take? I think they are actually doing a poor job; the population of the world is getting bigger, despite all the "tainted food". Another thing, why does it matter if people notice? The Jews noticed, and they still went to that gas chambers.

[Dimnos]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

Rationing health care is not easier than rounding people up and gassing them. The Nazis killed millions and millions of people in a few short years, and only stopped because they lost a war. Why not gas people instead of ration their health care and wait for them to die from disease or injury.

Or hell they could start some dummy corporation that then "accidentally" has a chemical spill of something much more toxic than fluoride. Kill off thousands of people before anyone finds out. Then just blame the dummy company that then closes. That way the government doesnt even have to worry about taking the heat for it. Or they could sabotage a few nuclear power stations and basically have an American Chernobyl. Or or or... They could just reinstate the draft and send us all off to Iran or some shit and get us killed WHILE we are killing others.