Isreali soldiers board Ship to Gaza flotilla and kill plenty

[Tadao]

How dare they shoot at someone who is firing a gun at them. I'm outraged.

[Blasted Child]

Originally Posted by Tadao

How dare they shoot at someone who is firing a gun at them. I'm outraged.

ah but you have to agree it's pretty incompetent to board a ship like that. Not only are you a military commando versus a motley crew of activists with sticks and chairs; you manage to get your weapons stolen from you, used against you, and then you end up killing like a dozen of them. That's some pretty bad crowd control if you ask me, but then again I'm no military expert.

Pentegarn, unfortunately this display of brute force doesn't work in favour of Israel - you see, outside of USA, the world kind of thinks that Israel sucks right now. Maybe apart from Palau, you never know with Palau. Every time Israel employs excessive force they lose another chunk of credibility.

As a person who grew up with lectures by holocaust-survivors, films about the holocaust, books about the holocaust (in Sweden during the eighties and nineties there were books informing about the holocaust and the crimes against the jews handed out by the government free of charge) and with Anne Frank's diary as pretty much a mandatory part of the school curriculum, I'm extremely sad that the image of Israel as a victim is being washed out and replaced by Israel as an aggressor.

[Pentegarn]

Originally Posted by Blasted Child

Pentegarn, unfortunately this display of brute force doesn't work in favour of Israel - you see, outside of USA, the world kind of thinks that Israel sucks right now. Maybe apart from Palau, you never know with Palau. Every time Israel employs excessive force they lose another chunk of credibility.

I think that's exactly why Israel is so aggressive. Everyone hated them from the get go when all they did was go where Truman put them. Decades of hatred for something that you didn't really start in the first place, and centuries of hatred for being born who you are born as tends to harden anyone.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by Blasted Child

ah but you have to agree it's pretty incompetent to board a ship like that. Not only are you a military commando versus a motley crew of activists with sticks and chairs; you manage to get your weapons stolen from you, used against you, and then you end up killing like a dozen of them. That's some pretty bad crowd control if you ask me, but then again I'm no military expert.

I agree, they should have fired tear gas onto the ship prior to boarding, thus preventing the supposedly peaceful activists from swarming the soldiers. Of course some idiot probably just assumed that the activists would comply with the boarding party.

Originally Posted by Blasted Child

Pentegarn, unfortunately this display of brute force doesn't work in favour of Israel - you see, outside of USA, the world kind of thinks that Israel sucks right now.

Next you're going to say that some people don't like the US!

Originally Posted by Blasted Child

I'm extremely sad that the image of Israel as a victim is being washed out and replaced by Israel as an aggressor.

Where have you been the last 20 years? Sure, at the beginning Israel was only responding to outside threats but I'm pretty sure by the eighties shit was bad. Hell, even in the 70's they were assassinating people. Israel would be screwed if they weren't the rat bastards that they are, so of course they're aggressive and of course everyone knows that. It just depends whether or not you think said aggression is justified.

[Dr. Boogie]

Originally Posted by Blasted Child

ah but you have to agree it's pretty incompetent to board a ship like that. Not only are you a military commando versus a motley crew of activists with sticks and chairs; you manage to get your weapons stolen from you, used against you, and then you end up killing like a dozen of them. That's some pretty bad crowd control if you ask me, but then again I'm no military expert.

That's true. The Geneva Convention states that when a civilian wrestles a gun away from a soldier, that civilian is allowed to take no less than 5 free penalty shots.