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Old Jun 18th, 2003, 11:15 AM       
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Originally Posted by Raven
Alright lets try this again. Under a chromosome method they would not be considered human, that is why utilizing DNA would be better. But that is, as you stated impractical.
Huh? First you said DNA is the bad way, so go to chromosomes. Now chromosomes are bad to your point of view in certain cases, so let's go back to DNA. Make up your mind before you start talking, buddy. When you say "let's use logic!" that doesn't mean resort to fuzzy logic or changing your story when the debate goes against you.

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But the end result will always come out to be human. No matter the manner of conditions you place it under. For the DNA is inherently human. Thus the being is inherently human.
The being is human in appearance, and shares the physical properties of humans, nothing more. Sentience and self-awareness and intellect to separate humans from any other animal, which we have no qualms about killing regularly.

There is no scientific proof that a fetus in the first stages of development has any kind of higher brain activity whatsoever that could be construed as part of sentience.

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Is the cell "alive" or is it just a part of a living organism? Is the organ "alive" or merely functioning?
In the first stages of development, the cells in a blastocyst are all operating on their own, merely replicating themselves. They are not operating in tandem. They're simply doing what all cells do.

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I meant the same thing you did. But simple teaching them the use of contraceptives, and the consequences of sex isn't enough of a deterent. Or at the very least a complete deterent. For without being forced to view the risks it has outside of the realm of 4th or 5th person, teenagers will continue to foolishly believe it won't happen to them.
Again, why should we allow all these unwanted children to enter the world just because you feel it's a good way to prove a point? You said it youself a few lines later, "unwanted children are a tragedy."

No shit people are still gonna fuck all the time no matter what we tell them. We tell people that it's wrong to commit murder, and yet it still happens.

Knock knock? We live in a free society, so there's no such thing as a complete deterent.
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