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Old May 2nd, 2011, 03:47 AM       
“After a firefight they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body”

AFTER the firefight they killed him... so basically executed, then.

"justice has been done"

When a man is executed without a trial, then justice has been done, apparently.

I'm no fan of Bin Laden; just playing devil's advocate here.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 06:06 AM       
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“After a firefight they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body”

AFTER the firefight they killed him... so basically executed, then.

"justice has been done"

When a man is executed without a trial, then justice has been done, apparently.

I'm no fan of Bin Laden; just playing devil's advocate here.
Let's take it further then:

Bin Laden admitted to planning the 9/11 attacks.

The 6th Amendment is for US citizens, which Bin Laden is not one of

Killing Bin Laden is a military action

The unprovoked attack on the world trade center that Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for cost 3000+ people their lives and ruined countless other lives that were associated with it. Bin Laden however is one man

In a twisted way, I agree, justice was not served, 3000 lives for one evil life is not justice. There's probably no way justice will ever be served.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 08:42 AM       
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Let's take it further then:

Bin Laden admitted to planning the 9/11 attacks.

The 6th Amendment is for US citizens, which Bin Laden is not one of

Killing Bin Laden is a military action

The unprovoked attack on the world trade center that Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for cost 3000+ people their lives and ruined countless other lives that were associated with it. Bin Laden however is one man

In a twisted way, I agree, justice was not served, 3000 lives for one evil life is not justice. There's probably no way justice will ever be served.
Ok, I don't think admitting a crime means that it's ok to dispense with a trial. I think it would have been justice to capture him, get him to admit his crime in front the international courts, then sentence him. I don't see the laws allowing the inhumane treatment of accused (not proven) 'terrorists' as justice, and I don't see the on the spot execution of a wanted man as justice either, no matter how bad a crime he has done.

Am I going to lose sleep over Osama not getting a fair trial? Hardly, but the world is getting more and more lax on what exceptions it can take to it's morals.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 10:51 AM       
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Let's take it further then:

Bin Laden admitted to planning the 9/11 attacks.
But... He didn't. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed did.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 12:31 PM       
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“After a firefight they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body”

AFTER the firefight they killed him... so basically executed, then.
I wonder if there was a deleted phrase, such as "After a firefight they (found they had) killed Osama ....". It's more likely to have happened that way. :Occam'sRazor

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In a twisted way, I agree, justice was not served, 3000 lives for one evil life is not justice. There's probably no way justice will ever be served.

That's not twisted at all; sadly, it makes perfect sense.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 01:02 PM       
Hmm, I would have argued that Occam's razor backs my theory better.

I can't see Osama fighting on the front lines during a battle, anyway.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 02:21 PM       
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Hmm, I would have argued that Occam's razor backs my theory better.

I can't see Osama fighting on the front lines during a battle, anyway.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 02:49 PM       
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Hmm, I would have argued that Occam's razor backs my theory better.
You honestly believe the soldiers wouldn't rather have had him alive, so they could parade him in front of the world as CAPTURED!! like they did with KSM and Saddam?

Still it's a moot point, and one not really worth arguing, in my opinion.
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