Kevin/ Democratic Party

[The_Rorschach]

"I never claimed to be an "authority" but I know enough to form an opinion."

An opinion based upon partial information and half truths is void of any value, and certainly not worth sharing.

"Getting back to the original point, he did NOT do these thing in the interest of altruism, which was you said. Strike one."

Really? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. My exact words were "(Ford did) much to improve the lives and conditions of so many in such a short amount of time with limited influence."

I never hinted at, nor expressly said, he did so altruistically. That was your interpretation. Your strike is a foul ball.

"The ends justify the means, right? I could give a damn whether he suceeded or not. There was plenty of competition and resources to take up the slack. I think the U.S. would have survived."

I've never believed the ends justify the means, I the opposite as it happens: The means justify the end, which is why I am so concerned with the observation of law in all things.

"Let's sensationalize a few isolated incidents to make our point, shall we. I'm talking in general, that's the job of the government. In taking things in your own hands like that, you're no better than gangsters and illegal militia."

So you're a socialist. Does that mean you don't believe banks shouldn't have guards? Security Personal should be fired and United States Servicemen positioned in their place? If we follow your logic far enough, what we'll have is a Orwellian Oligarchy.

"Yes, there is a difference and he crossed the line into racism."

No actually he didn't. The line is crossed when beliefs translate into actions. Read the US Constitution, which as defined by the US Supreme Court holds a citizen is able "to state a preference in every field of endeavour, and as long as that document is law of the land, no one can stop him." Marx might agree with you, but I certainly don't.

"That's not necessary. I know what I know."

So you are no longer merely a man with an opinion, but an expert who can learn nothing further on this topic. I see.

"Ford was simply NOT the major player in aeronautical engineering you make him out to be."

Actually, my statement had to do with his concern for a quality product not his feats in aeronomics. I believe this strike is also a foul, and I won't wait for four. Two is enough, after this post I'm walking. You aren't worth the air that fills your lungs, let alone my attentions, as you cannot even follow a simple post without interjecting your own ungrounded thoughts into it. If you consider my disdain your victory, then I can only hope you enjoy it.

"There were plenty of people back then who found anti-semitism appauling."

And there were plenty of people who thought homosexuality was a travesty against nature and that the US was destined to be a light unto the world. 'Plenty of people' will believe anything.

"Hiring thugs and scabs ... which you have already conceded that he did ... IS an abuse of power."

No, it was an extreme solution to an extreme problem. As you have clearly shown a deficient knowledge concerning Ford, the conditions of the Depression and Turn-of-the-Century business, I will simply inform you your remarks are silly rather than correct them.

"I could care less about most wealthy people. In general, they don't affect me."

Sad, sad little peasant. I suppose politicians don't effect you either?

"Besides, society has a way of regulating itself. If enough people don't agree with those in power who abuse their power, things change. "

The Bastille would be an apt portrayal of this.