Bad news for liberals.

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i must admit the references to cia and others knowing about the pearl harbor attack 12 days before are very hard to find as is the info regarding japan being ready to surrender before the bomb, it all depends on what you read.. ive come across the info in books by zinn and the war on freedom, so i can't prove much here.. many folks with the personal experience are now dead.

my point is not that there's some shadow government (as blanco says) working as a team to pull the wool over our eyes.. its that there are corrupt people in the government using thier power to sway opinion with only a little concern about collateral damage(concern based on selfpreservation). the wmd issue is 90% manufactured and those using the issue should be held accountable.. i just see this situation as similar to many other situations that were surrounded by lies, demonization, fear, and cloak and dagger tactics.

have you heard of the declasified northwoods document?
we've had plans to bait an enemy into first strike or fabricate a first strike(hard to prove) over and over if you look into it.. if you don't believe it or don't care, i'm saying that you have been duped into waving that flag as if gw really cares about you. If the plans were known about, do you think they would use them? control of information is thier first line of defence. plus everybody knows how slippery politicians are, you think that's for no reason? give me a break.

gw rewards the financial contributors and throws the rest to the wolves.. even our GI's are suffering many cutbacks. gw needed collateral damage to back a move into oil country to stabalize the dollar and provide new contracts for the corp heads that got him into power. at least thats what i and many others see as the main reason we had 9-11, attack on afghanistan, wmd's and iraq occupation.