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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 11:36 PM       
hey, goat, way to actually read my post.

if you'll notice, I actually called Rog out on some comic book related things, so don't try to pull this high ground shit.

his fanboy opinion is not any better than mine, but I guess you would've had to READ my post AND understand what I was saying to really "get" that.

and way to be in it for Rog's protein
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 11:52 PM       
You're BOTH being fanboys, it is just stupid of you to call him out for it when you yourself have done the same in the past. And if you openly admit that his fanboy opinion isn't any better than yours, then WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL? If you're both fanboys of different things, then what does it matter? I like something, you don't. I dislike something, you like it.

Why does it matter so much to you that people actually LIKED X3? Does it offend you in some way? And does it offend you that someone might actually not think Superman Returns was all that fantastic? Jesus, I knew some people took comic books seriously, but this is fucking rediculous.
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 12:00 AM       
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 12:00 AM       
Goat, take Rog's penis out of your mouth and tells us, in your own words, why you think they're great movies.
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 12:02 AM       
I know I'm on the internet. If I were actually getting mad, then you would have a point. I just find it highly amusing that you seem to get so worked up over the simple fact that people disagree with you about comic movies.

EDIT: Why do I think they're great movies? Because Reeve was excellent as Superman, the stories (at the time) were original, the effects were good for their time as well, and they were just fun to watch. I say that makes them good movies in my book.
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 03:34 AM       
I just got back form the theater. It was a good ride, Lex Luthor is perfectly portrayed but he didn't get as much screen time that builds his character. all of his scenes are only about him hatching his evil scheme (wich is fucking cool fo the comic fans) The ending bugged me a little bit. all in all it was probably one of the best movies so far this year, form an entertainment stand point.
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 04:01 AM       
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 07:47 AM       
I saw it yesterday and yeah, I claim to being a Superman fanboy.. after all, he was there in my little kiddie life before Spider-Man... btw, I loved that they had the Spider-Man 3 trailer beforehand, but enough about that...

Yeah, I had the same gripes, albeit MINIMAL, about Superman II. Did the teleportation, the celophane S and laser hands seem out of place for me? Yeah. But did it ruin the movie for me? No.

I agree with IS as far as I HATEHATEHATE Margot Kidder as Lois Lane, but then with this addendum: It's only because basically, she looked like a hag by the time we got to Superman IV. Margot definitely looked like she'd been chainsmoking at that point and that may have negatively influenced my opinion there.

It's kinda irrational but I'm not gonna pretend I'm some infallible movie god whose logic goes because I demand it.

After all that's said... it seems we can all agree that we liked the movies but for different reasons. And I am exactly the type of nerd that'll go sit through Superman Returns again. After all, it, like the previous few, had it's "WTF" moments, including...


SPOILERS, FAGS

Superman is Lois's babydaddy? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

But hey, I'm fanboyish enough to just like the fact that Superman is onscreen again, in a rather semi-well done movie, and that Kevin Spacey is every bit as great as Gene Hackman when it comes to Lex Luthor. I just kinda wish that they'd have given him a different villain... after all, Superman's battled Lex, directly or not, through FOUR movies now...
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 01:56 PM       
the original script back in 98 had Doomsday and Braniac. I think that would have been cool as hell.
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 02:54 PM       
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 02:57 PM       
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Old Jun 29th, 2006, 05:28 PM       
I saw this last night, it was really good. It reminded me of the old Superman Movies. With the Wacky/evil Lex luthor with an over ambitious scheme to take over the world and A really good actor to play superman. Kevin Spacey was Perfect as Lex Luthor and So was Brandon Routh as Superman. It was a good mix of The old Superman with the Slight Gags and Good Humor mixed with the Intense action of the Newer Generation of Superhero Films.
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Old Jun 30th, 2006, 01:07 AM       
I saw it tonight. I heard a lot of mixed things on Kevin Spacey as Luthor. I liked him, but everyone else seems to hate how he was portrayed. I do wish they gave him more screen time, though.

Routh was...okay, I guess. I don't want to say he was bad because honestly there's only so far you can go when you're playing an INVULNERABLE HUMAN BEING who is sad once in a while. And that's the ultimate problem a lot of people have, is that Superman is just ultimately waaaay too fucking powerful.

I've always thought it was funny that the most powerful superhero OF ALL TIMES is going against a supervillain thats only superpower is being really, really smart. And rich, maybe.

A good movie, but this is definitely no threat to the Spider-Man series.
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Old Jun 30th, 2006, 04:51 PM       
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guys just so you can discount my taste in movies too, i thought superman 3 was a great movie
I thought so too. It wasn't as big of a classic movie as the first two though. I thought superman had literally met his match by battling against his own bad self. And I just love the peanut flicking part...
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Old Jul 1st, 2006, 03:00 AM       
just wated superman 3 last night, almost could have been a movies without superman and just richard pryors character as the lead
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Old Jul 1st, 2006, 05:28 AM       
i saw this tonight, and i fucking thought it sucked ass like everything else superman related. i hate superman, but i thought since my friends were going that it might be good because of the hype. and it was suppose to have some killer special effects or somthing

it was so boring i have never been more bored in the theaters

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what the fuck how does he SURVIVE BEING STABBED WITH KRYPTONITE

excuse me guys, i dont like super man at all. but i've read frank miller's dark knight returns series and i know that SUPER MAN DOES NOT LIVE THROUGH BEING SHOT WITH KRYPTONITE ARROWS. But if you stab him with a huge slab of kryptonite, he's fine?

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Old Jul 1st, 2006, 09:22 PM       
I watched the originalSuperman also and got dissappointed. Mabye it had to do with the nature of Clark Kent, but he acts way too awkward and shy (im not saying Reeves did a bad job, but the portrayal of the character was a tad boring). I mean even Peter Parker had punched out the school bully, Flash, in the movie. I wouldnt say that Margot Kidder was beastly, but she definately looked a lot better in Amtyville Horror. Anyways, it just really make a huge impact on me like Spider-Man (which revived my love for comics), or Batman did. I cant really comment on the second Superman, but obviously the first movie didnt really have any fight scenes, Unlike in Batman (which also handled humor a lot better).
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 06:54 AM       
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even superman: the animated series is more tasteful interpretation of superman than the movies and they had the TOYMAN for christ's sake.
You fucking take that back. Superman: TAS was fantastic.

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Disregard Frank Miller's take on Superman. The Dark Knight Returns is not the same Superman as in regular comics, as it was an Elseworlds, a kind of "What If..."

And getting stabbed with kryptonite probably won't kill him any more than a regular person getting stabbed with a knife will, unless the chunk stayed inside of him for too long.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 12:01 PM       
Except of course that the knife was radioactive.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 01:37 PM       
Only mildly. It doesn't kill Supes with radiation poisoning, it intereres with the way his cells store and process solar radiation. It only hurts him so long as he is in range. If you remove it from his system, he feels no ill effects anymore.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 04:55 PM       
I liked seeing Superman shot in the eye.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 05:33 PM       
so kryptonite, his only weakness, isn't even really that effective against him? see this is why i hate superman. he can't die. he can do everything. it's like he has no problems, or anything. i just can't get into it.

it's like when i was little, and my friends would have "who is the best super hero?"

and there was that one kid who would always argue that super man was the best because "HE CAN DO ANYTHING"

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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 06:02 PM       
Kryptonite is deadly to him, but you need to use it properly. If you stab him with a knife made of the stuff, well, the knife's going to penetrate, and if you leave the knife near him or in the wound, he's going to die pretty fast. If you take it out and take it away, well, it's gonna be like a regular stab wound is to us. Unless, of course, a somewhat substantial amount of kryptonite remained in his system, which would prevent him from recovering as quickly as he usually does.

Supes is also vulnerable to magic. As in he is just as susceptible to spells as any regular human. Getting hit by Thor's hammer isn't going to do any more damage than any other indestructible blunt weapon swung by someone with Superman-level strength would do. That's because its magic affects properties of itself, not the things it hits, unlike Wonder Woman's sword which magically cuts through anything.

The most interesting things about Superman aren't his powers (which, by the way, aren't as powerful as you think. Or actually they are, but there's plenty of people who can either circumvent them or flat-out challenge them personally, like Darkseid, Orion, Lex Luthor, Brainiac etcetera.) but what he stands for and believes in. Action Comics #775 is a very good example of this. Basically, Supes gets his ass kicked by The elite, an Authority pastiche who don't shy away from using lethal force in order to deal with threats, even though they could just as easily subdue villains without killing them. They also don't really care about collateral damage. Supes gets pissed off at all their shit and uses his superspeed to take most of them out, making it seem to their leader that he killed them. Then he temporarily disables the leader's powers by heat-visioning his brain. The guy breaks down crying at the loss of his powers, but takes comfort in the fact that he made Supes stoop down to his level. Or at least, until Supes reveals that he was just fucking with the guy's mind to make a point, and that the guy was just as bad as the people he fought.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 06:40 PM       
Loved superman returns, hated xmen 3. I especially liked how this movie didn't reference a lame internet joke
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Old Jul 2nd, 2006, 07:12 PM       
So, if Superman Is vunerable to magic. Then he must have hated birthday Parties

But yeah. Kryptonite Can harm Superman, but its not like a magical Force Field that will Ward him off. The only way to kill superman is to Trap him with a Magical Force Field, and then Stab him with a Jagged Piece of Kryptonite. Lex had a good idea in the film, but it is because of Lois Lane that he was able to defeat Lex.

It also explains Superman's Near Death at the hands of Doomsday. Because I Am not mistaking, Doomsday was Partially made of Kryptonite (SpectreX Can clear this up as My details are a little sketchy). Also, some of the other Superbeings have no vulnerability to Kryptonite, Like Superboy (again, SpectreX can clear this up.) as superboy has, or atleast in some comics, a Magical Force Field which gives him the near invinciblity.
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