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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 01:07 PM       
There are a few games that were released only in the PAL regions.

I'm pretty sure there are some decent PS2 emulators out there that can run the disc straight out of your drive, and your games won't look like shit. It's a lot cheaper and easier than modding your system, too.
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 01:28 PM       
if you have an insanely good computer, yeah

the one i was looking at earlier still only emulates like 1/2 of the games it's been tested with, too
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 03:29 PM       
The game I was thinking of when I asked was Sirens 2. I considered buying a PAL ps2 (not something I'd actually do in order to play a single game but it's an idea I had) but you know, those PAL Playstations aren't labeled as such. I assumed all UK ps2's had PAL stamped on their tops in gigantic red letters and also that they came in less threatening colors like blue and green but that's not how it is. I guess you could order one off Amazon.uk, it'd probably be a PAL version, maybe. What I'm curious about now is if PAL systems have to be modified in order to play American games.
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Old Mar 25th, 2009, 02:53 PM       
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those PAL Playstations aren't labeled as such. I assumed all UK ps2's had PAL stamped on their tops in gigantic red letters and also that they came in less threatening colors like blue and green but that's not how it is.
I had a look at mine and there is a tiny 3mm label on the underside that says PAL in grey on black.
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 06:57 PM       
i'm not finding anything on google about sirens 2 and it frightens me

edit: that's because it's not sirens it's just siren lol, and in english it's "forbidden siren"

at least i hope that's what you meant
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 07:20 PM       
yep, that's it. It's weird you can't get any search results back if you pluralize it.
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 07:20 PM       
supposedly there is some way to get out-of-region PAL discs to run on ps2 with something called swapmagic but also there seems to be difficulty getting it to work w/ games that are on dual layer / dvd9 discs (i.e. siren 2 ;_; )
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 07:40 PM       
SwapMagic doesn't work too well for newer games, anyway, and Siren 2 is fairly recent I think.
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 09:11 PM       
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SwapMagic doesn't work too well for newer games, anyway, and Siren 2 is fairly recent I think.
that's what i was talken about
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 07:51 PM       
I thought I read that Siren 2 was going to come out on PSP or PS3 or something.
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 07:54 PM       
Siren Episodes is on the PSN. I dunno about a disc.
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 09:10 PM       
siren 3's sposed to come out on ps3
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 09:17 PM       
Yeah but there's only like 10 dual-layer games tho
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Old Mar 24th, 2009, 09:29 PM       
well according to the google siren 2 is one of them
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Old Mar 26th, 2009, 12:16 PM       
Siren: Blood Curse is going to be a remake of the original title for the PS3. It was released last year, and is only available via the PSN store.


It's also censored a lot.
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Old Mar 26th, 2009, 07:19 PM       
I had to send in my 360 after getting the red ring of death. Again. The last time, they sent me a new one, and it last through just under 2 years of on/off playing.

The 360 has some great games, but the console itself seems to be pretty crappy.
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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 08:33 AM       
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I had to send in my 360 after getting the red ring of death. Again. The last time, they sent me a new one, and it last through just under 2 years of on/off playing.

The 360 has some great games, but the console itself seems to be pretty crappy.
Sad but true. I owned many gaming consoles and none of them ever broke down, my Snes, PS1, my 2600 still works, not even my 1st Gameboy that was drowned in Applejuice when I was a kid. But the 360? Had to send it in two times already.

But late last year it was struck by lightning (true story) and I suppose it has superpowers now, like, not breaking down like a cheap electronic toy.
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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 08:39 AM       
Well mine lasted for a reasonably long time before it died. I thought I was immune, that it was something that happened to other Xboxes. It's away for repairs or replacement right now, but I am pleased with the service so I am not too mad. All the great games has made it easily worth it.
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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 02:49 PM       
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Sad but true. I owned many gaming consoles and none of them ever broke down, my Snes, PS1, my 2600 still works, not even my 1st Gameboy that was drowned in Applejuice when I was a kid. But the 360? Had to send it in two times already.
That's not really a fair comparison, though. All of those except the PS1 are cartridge based systems with no moving parts, and even the PS1 runs at pretty low speed compared to a 360. Probably, failure rates are only going to increase as the machines get more and more complex. It's like comparing a bike to a car. They both do mostly the same thing, but the one that does it better has a lot more places to break down.
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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 02:57 PM       
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That's not really a fair comparison, though. All of those except the PS1 are cartridge based systems with no moving parts, and even the PS1 runs at pretty low speed compared to a 360. Probably, failure rates are only going to increase as the machines get more and more complex. It's like comparing a bike to a car. They both do mostly the same thing, but the one that does it better has a lot more places to break down.
Are you trying to defend what Microsoft did? The 360 is probably the worst produced electronic of all time in terms of hardware, it's a piece of crap.

Yes, there are always failure rates but this is phenomenal, they built this like a piece of crap and that's why it fails like a piece of crap, not because of more complex hardware, if it was because of that, then the PS3 would be failing left and right as well and laptops and ipods and everything!
The whole RROD thing may be fixed now apparently with the newer consoles but we'll see if those fail within 2 years or not
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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 03:38 PM       
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Are you trying to defend what Microsoft did? The 360 is probably the worst produced electronic of all time in terms of hardware, it's a piece of crap.

Yes, there are always failure rates but this is phenomenal, they built this like a piece of crap and that's why it fails like a piece of crap, not because of more complex hardware, if it was because of that, then the PS3 would be failing left and right as well and laptops and ipods and everything!
The whole RROD thing may be fixed now apparently with the newer consoles but we'll see if those fail within 2 years or not
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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 04:08 PM       
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Make a good console with a good online service and nice controllers while supporting independent developers and replacing faulty machines free of charge?

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Old Mar 27th, 2009, 03:13 PM       
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That's not really a fair comparison, though. All of those except the PS1 are cartridge based systems with no moving parts, and even the PS1 runs at pretty low speed compared to a 360. Probably, failure rates are only going to increase as the machines get more and more complex. It's like comparing a bike to a car. They both do mostly the same thing, but the one that does it better has a lot more places to break down.
We'll see. I can't imagine that making machines that they have to replace every 2 years or so is going to help their profit margins.
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