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Emu · #1

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Gamma

I mean, $400+ is a bit of an investment for a silly hobby.

Yeah, but I gotta defend Sony (and Nintendo I guess) here in that at least with their systems, you get the whole package for what you pay for. The 360 most definitely comes out as the more expensive console by far if you want to get the best performance out of it. Even the most expensive model of the 360 doesn't come with some things that the PS3 and the Wii's cheapest options do, namely an internal wi-fi adapter and in the PS3's case a Blu-Ray drive (and full backwards compatibility, at least for a little while.) The 360's wi-fi adapter costs fucking $99.99 new. If you buy an Elite console (and you should!), that's $500 dollars alone, and if you want wireless controllers with rechargable battery packs, that's another $60 right there. Even the cheapest PS3 comes with those things off the bat.

executioneer · #2

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Originally Posted by Emu

Yeah, but I gotta defend Sony (and Nintendo I guess) here in that at least with their systems, you get the whole package for what you pay for. The 360 most definitely comes out as the more expensive console by far if you want to get the best performance out of it. Even the most expensive model of the 360 doesn't come with some things that the PS3 and the Wii's cheapest options do, namely an internal wi-fi adapter and in the PS3's case a Blu-Ray drive (and full backwards compatibility, at least for a little while.) The 360's wi-fi adapter costs fucking $99.99 new. If you buy an Elite console (and you should!), that's $500 dollars alone, and if you want wireless controllers with rechargable battery packs, that's another $60 right there. Even the cheapest PS3 comes with those things off the bat.

i don't have this problem cause i plugged my 360 right into the network router ;( also i don't give a fug about hd-dvd/blu-ray cause i don't have an hdtv

that is a really retarded price to pay just for a wifi adapter though, some third party should come up w/ a cheaper alternative

Zomboid · #3

I don't get pissed off at my xbox because it's a fucking console. It plays games and dvds, and that's all I want from it. I like the online, the games, and I also like that so many people I know own one.

Big McLargehuge · #4

Someone should buy me a 360 and a ps3 so i can get in on this debate

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Phoenix Gamma · #5

Just join Team Wii :D

It's not like no one else bashes consoles they don't own

Big McLargehuge · #6

Will you buy me a Wii?

Zomboid · #7

I'd sell ya mine, but I like the virtual console. That's what I still use it for :D

Big McLargehuge · #8

I am one broke ass mother fucker anyway.

Microshock · #9

All i said was that the 360 fails, a lot. If you're trying to defend that, that's really really stupid, because theres no denying it.

Phoenix Gamma · #10

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Originally Posted by Microshock

All i said was that the 360 fails, a lot. If you're trying to defend that, that's really really stupid, because theres no denying it.

Sony Viral Marketing detected.

Emu · #11

It's true, people really don't take care of their consoles. People bring their 360s to me all the time looking for tech support (not that I know how to fix any of this shit) and 90% of the time the problem is that someone knocked it over or the fan area is literally choked with dust and spider eggs.

Let's get something straight, though: The 360's hardware failures are monstrous compared to those of the PS3. That's a fact. However, Microsoft probably initially tested the 360 using people who know how to take care of a console, and not the inbred morons who actually ended up buying the thing and complaining when their hardware failed because they apparently live in mud huts. So Microsoft may have excused failtastic hardware because the failure rates were considerably lower in the laboratory. Or maybe Microsoft is honestly run by a cadre of hand-wringing Scrooges, I don't know.

That's another thing to take into account, too: The 360's primary audience is mostly targeted between those golden ages of 12-24 year old males. In other words, the most irresponsible people on the planet. The PS3 is generally targeted toward older people who are interested in the Blu-Ray features and have the means to use the hardware that most younger folk don't. For every PS3 that comes to me in awful condition, there are at least 360s that have urine stains on them.

Dr. Boogie · #12

For the record, I'd like to point out that my 360s have gotten fucked up while under the same circumstances as my still-working PS2: sitting perfectly still on a wooden piece of furniture.

From what I've read, the problem does seem to be caused by crappy design/parts/construction of the consoles. There are apparently a couple lawsuits against Microsoft for this very reason, and if it does turn out to be the truth, I hope MS winds up losing the case. Not because I feel I'm owed something, but because hopefully, it'll establish a precedent that will encourage console makers not to make cheap shit that breaks easy.

All of this leads me to one unavoidable conclusion: The PS3 sucks.

MetalMilitia · #13

This discussion is redundant because everyone knows the PC is the best platform.

The PS3 is a good blu-ray player with some limited gaming possibilities and the 360 is a medium for spoilt children to abuse strangers.

Dr. Boogie · #14

There's certainly no denying that people are stupid. At the same time, I don't feel like that's an explanation for why failure rates are so high for this generation. Or at least why failure rates are so high outside of Florida.

Zomboid · #15

The 360s probably just commit suicide because they know they won't get Killzone 2

Babs · #16

and both of my original NES systems still work perfectly

Fathom Zero · #17

And yeah, it's also a manufacturing issue. But it's incredibly easy to defend against. Or you could just send it in. Either way.

Dr. Boogie · #18

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Originally Posted by Fathom Zero

And yeah, it's also a manufacturing issue. But it's incredibly easy to defend against.

Yeah: don't turn on your 360 or expose it to any heat.

People, please. It's ok to like the 360 while still acknowledging that each console has a certain chance of bricking. The reason people put up with it is because of the great gaming experience when it does work.

Microshock · #19

Or you can get a console that you dont have to be afraid of breaking down constantly..and the 360's that red ring dont just happen because of people not taking care of their system, it's because of faulty hardware.

Microsoft rushed it out to market and see what happened? Vista had the same dilemma when it first launched.
The only thing i see Xbox Live having over PSN is in-game cross voice chat, being able to send voice messages and in-game invites, and i dont think thats ever worth 50 dollars, microsoft tried to do it on the pc and guess what, no one paid 50 dollars for it.

And to say a service is somehow better because you pay for it, thats not true, Valve doesnt charge you to use steam and its services, right? That's because they make money off games on the service they sell.
And guess what, theres a store on the ps3! They make money off that and they do constantly add new features and listen to the fans.

Zomboid · #20

Fathom Zero · #21

I've said my piece and now I am done.

Sam · #22

I'd rather play a system that has games I want and dies then a system that doesn't die and has shit for games.

Microshock · #23

I don't know, i'd rather have a system with actual variety other than just Halo 3 and Gears of War 2, i have enough shooters on the PC.

Phoenix Gamma · #24

Every console is shit.

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/10-reaso...32717493323082

Also, Microshock, you don't need to vehemently defend the PS3. Sony's a grown up.