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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:47 AM       
I like how she cleverly counters kahljorn's well backed arguments with "I NO HISTORY AN DA HINDUS STFU IVE BIN THERE THREE TIMES".
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 12:59 PM       
and I would never come to you for anything either, kahl. I'd be too scared you were going to kill me.

Gris, where ya been?

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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 02:04 PM       
You're an idiot lenor. Just because somebody insults you for being an idiot doesn't mean they want to kill you.
Obviously you suffer from some paranoid delusions..
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 03:56 PM       
how did this thread get so long so fast
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 04:09 PM       
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how did this thread get so long so fast
Idiots attract criticism.

Of course, I don't understand why all of the focus isn't on Gothtard.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 06:53 PM       
"The Vedantic perception of the Rigveda has moved away from the original ritualistic content to a more symbolic or mystical interpretation. For example, instances of animal sacrifice
are not seen as literal slaughtering but as transcendental processes."
Clearly, this is an indication that original traditions have succumbed to modernist views.
now that we have that covered,
I have read the Rig Veda many times over,
which would certainly be an overload for your puny mind.
So tell me, my dear,
if the hindu strives for nothingness,
then why is half of the Rig Veda in praise of enjoying the earth.
You obviously dont know jack shit about buddah.
If he was such a follower of hinduism,
then why is there an entirely seperate system of beliefes centered around his teachings.
?
poemed out, huh?
sounds like you don't read much.
Linguistic skills don't equal poetry.
idiot.
right now,
your commiting the worst sin
being boring.
your circular and repetitive arguments
only reenforce my point
that you park your fat ass in front of the computer
and hope it covers your diminishing, if even existent
social life.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 07:03 PM       
You obviously don't read. Like I said, nobody practices vedic hinduism anymore. It wasn't displaced by "Modern" practices. The vedic teachings were displaced because the culture itself changed. Philosophies change over time, sister moon dumbass. After buddha came along, buddhism became the most popular religion because layman could practice it. Hinduism changed to adopt to this standard by becoming more accessible to people who weren't born into the Brahmanic religion.
Secondly, even vedic hinduism is an amalgamation of Dravidic, Harrapan and Aryan belief systems.

All Indian Philosophies have fairly similar teachings, just slightly different. The biggest difference between Hinduism and Buddhism is that buddhism doesn't believe in gods. Other than that, buddha was essentially a hindu.
You see, the difference between my argument and your argument is that you don't understand philosophy or the meaning of the underlying teachings. I, however, do, because I have both a brain and "College credits represent yo".
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 01:39 PM       
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poemed out, huh?
sounds like you don't read much.
Linguistic skills don't equal poetry.
idiot.
Writing a bunch of sentence fragments is hardly what I'd call "linguistic skills".

I don't believe that you are a published author. Prove it to me by linking to your books on Amazon.com.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 07:04 PM       
you didn't answer my question about which gods were opposed in the vedas. Seems like it would be an easy question to answer.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 07:13 PM       
Kahl, I was joking with you, its funny how that is about the only time, you've ever took anything I've said seriously.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 09:54 PM       
kkk? what the fuck?
the internet, I don’t give half a shit about.
Real people, not "0"s and "1"s,
matter to me.
Yes, we have gotten off topic.
Worship of the self was the original point.
Hindus are more concerned with self satisfaction,
rather then conforming to texts designed for "law" .
When I say I've experienced first hand,
I’m not saying I’m any better or smarter then you.
Well, maybe a little bit.
Anyways,
What I've been trying to say
is that living with them, understand each person-to-person contact,
is much different then studying texts in-depth.
I must say, you have an excellent knowledge of the technical aspect,
but the spirit of the belief is much different. the personal interface that i experienced,
with India,
shows me that the written word
and the practice
are much different.
I used to think the technical, written word was the standard,
but when you are actually there, in the Mecca of it all,
you see how people really have a general naturalization to the practices.
It's similar, in a weird way, to war (the most cliched example of all time)
Reading about it is alot different then experiencing it.
You seem very devoted to this. You actually should take a trip to India one day,
and you’ll see what I mean.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:27 PM       
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is that living with them, understand each person-to-person contact,
is much different then studying texts in-depth. "


What you're trying to say here is that I have knowledge of TRADITIONAL, real (UNCORRUPTED VEDIC) hinduism, and you have knowledge of the "corrupted" modern day hindu person who has been influenced by the west. Alright, I think I get your point. Hilarious though that your entire argument this point has been more against yourself than me. Good job.

Again, one of my best friends is an ayurvedic practicioner, and I've attended temples/festivals with them before - in fact I attended new years and all those other festivals last year. I know what indians are like. However, my indian friend also had an enforced marriage. how's that for not conforming to laws?
The purpose of the laws is to build a society you can enjoy. That's the social aspect of it. There's also a political nature to it, and religous, and philosophical. "Worshipping of the self" and "Satanism" are forms of philosophy.

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"Hindus are more concerned with self satisfaction,
rather then conforming to texts designed for "law" ."
Oh really is that why there was a strictly enforced caste system for thousands of years? yes, that must be why. All those shudras loved their positions. Also enforced marriage etc. am i right?


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Reading about it is alot different then experiencing it.


I guess. I'm talking about philosophy, you're talking about the way people socialize. shut the fuck up.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:51 PM       
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When I say I've experienced first hand,
I’m not saying I’m any better or smarter then you.
Well, maybe a little bit.


Holy shit, it's than...THAN!
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:52 PM       
JUST LOCK IT

MAKE IT STOP
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:28 PM       
guys i think ive won this argument now

i love backing people into a corner until they fuck up.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:53 PM       
than
than
than..
now you can have a heart attack.

kkk? what the fuck?
the internet, I don’t give half a shit about.
Real people, not "0"s and "1"s,
matter to me.
Yes, we have gotten off topic.
Worship of the self was the original point.
Hindus are more concerned with self satisfaction,
rather then conforming to texts designed for "law" .
When I say I've experienced first hand,
I’m not saying I’m any better or smarter then you.
Well, maybe a little bit.
Anyways,
What I've been trying to say
is that living with them, understand each person-to-person contact,
is much different then studying texts in-depth.
I must say, you have an excellent knowledge of the technical aspect,
but the spirit of the belief is much different. the personal interface that i experienced,
with India,
shows me that the written word
and the practice
are much different.
I used to think the technical, written word was the standard,
but when you are actually there, in the Mecca of it all,
you see how people really have a general naturalization to the practices.
It's similar, in a weird way, to war (the most cliched example of all time)
Reading about it is alot different then experiencing it.
You seem very devoted to this. You actually should take a trip to India one day,
and you’ll see what I mean.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 10:59 PM       
Ok, did you just copy/paste the same thing?

I care about 1's and 0's. And because I care so much about 1's and 0's, I'm moving this abortion of a thread to general blabber. Enjoy.
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Old Mar 7th, 2007, 11:45 PM       
that's a completely true history of the hindu culture.
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 12:08 AM       
This thread makes me sad in relation to the human soul.
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 12:28 PM       
Oomba Oomba Oomba Dore
Oomba Oomba Oomba Dore


Oooooh, and all our gods and heroes

Are only ones and zeros...

Join hands and sing along, everything we know is wrong!

I would be a "0".




Back on topic, an artist I know travels to India and does charitable work several times a year. He's fascinated with the culture, and converses with anyone there that he can engage in conversation. He talks about India a lot, and is very interested in raising awareness about the country, its religion, and its people.

Anway, I related the gist of your ideas to him, and he was highly amused.
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 12:52 PM       
lol.
Who's ideas, and what did he say?
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 12:26 PM       
HAY GUYS! WHO HERE IS A "0"? WHO HERE IS A "1"?

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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 01:30 PM       
Binary Code: 1001101011100

Which stands for, I have to agree that the only way to really learn about different cultures, and their heritage. Would be to live among those people, not just visit for a few weeks, read about it, or find out through someone else's travels.

I've been to China, visited several temples, walked on the great wall, and meditated outside of a Buddhist Temple, along-side the Monks.

And you know what I will only say I learned?

How to say Vodka in Mandarin Chinese, they suck at driving, and they serve alcohol at McDonald's.

ROAD TRIP anyone?
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 01:35 PM       
you guys are stupid if you think you can't learn about a culture by reading about it. Good job shitting on the entire point of anthropology and history, and the teaching of it in colleges.
Both of you two should just give up ever using your brain and trying to sound smart.

to learn about ancient cultures that not longer exist (like ancient indu civilizations) you can't exactly go there and live among them because they are dead. duuuUUUuh
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 01:37 PM       
do you guys even know what a culture is? it's just a reaction to the environment.
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