LET'S ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

[Dimnos]

Was something wrong with your other box?

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

It was my roommates. I just finished moving in with my baby mama to be so I needed to get some.

[Dimnos]

Ahhhh.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

That's why I need to transfer all my game saves too. So I've been playing L4D2 lately again because everthing is online.

[Phoenix Gamma]

http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/fallout...50816320911075

AWWWW SHEEEEEYUT

[Bubsy]

too bad fallit is for FUC**KING NOOBS!!!!!!!!!! none of these babies coudl handle secret of maama.

[Dimnos]

Kind of like how you cant handle that keyboard?

[Dr. Boogie]

Eh. I fully believe that it's a B-game because I remember a PS2 game by the same guy (Swery65) called Spy Fiction.

It wanted to be Metal Gear Solid so bad. Over-the-top villains, stealth, spy gadgets (including the optic camo suit), it was all in there. The thing was, it did everything MGS did, but really badly. The acting was terrible, the dialog was a joke, the music was mediocre at best, the combat was nightmarish, and then there was stuff that was just weird. I give the guy points for introducing the phrase "garbology", but the weirdest bit was trying to eavesdrop on someone: when you were near someone who had something to say, instead of just hearing them talk, you would hear this strange jabbering. Not like they're mumbling and you can't understand them; it was like they were loudly speaking gibberish. You had to hold down a button to listen to them, but doing so anchored you to one spot, and if you let go of the button or they walked away, the speech would end and you'd have to track them down to do it again.

I'm just not ready to give that guy any more of my money yet.

[Fathom Zero]

Oh man, I had that game, too. It was fantastic. I did like the Optical Camo masks. Great fun was had, walking up to an enemy as them.

I totally take it all back, these games are wonderful in any context.

[Zomboid]

Part of me wants stricter enforcement on the age restrictions so that xbox live isn't always filled with annoying little shits, but I really don't think we're going to see a bunch of little psychopaths emerging simply because they played some violent games or watched some violent movies.

My first R-rated movie was Terminator; I saw that when I was 5. I don't think my parents ever kept me from playing any kind of game, and I had no problems as a result of that. Shit, some of my earliest memories are of playing Wolfenstein and Doom. Most of us grew up playing and watching pretty much whatever we wanted, and we're fine. To be honest, I find the people that were really restricted to be socially awkward and a bit "off" much more frequently than those of us who have grown up with more exposure to the entertainment world.

Seriously, how hard is it to sit your kid down and tell him that what he's watching/playing isn't real, and all of the life lessons that he already knows (such as "don't stab people") still apply.

[Dimnos]

Originally Posted by Zomboid

To be honest, I find the people that were really restricted to be socially awkward and a bit "off" much more frequently than those of us who have grown up with more exposure to the entertainment world.

[Dr. Boogie]

Originally Posted by Zomboid

Seriously, how hard is it to sit your kid down and tell him that what he's watching/playing isn't real, and all of the life lessons that he already knows (such as "don't stab people") still apply.

Apparently, it's harder than trying to get the entire world to only put out the types of media that you consider acceptable to show your children.

[The Leader]

For some reason I feel that back in the day when people killed their own food, kids were exposed to a lot more real violence. Strange that society kept on going. Hell, kids hunt for sport with the parents now. I don't see anyone worrying about how actually killing animals for fun affects youth. You'd think that that would have more of an effect than shooting fake guys on TV.

Of course there isn't any causal relationship between hunting and being a lawless psychopath much the same way there is no relationship between playing Doom and school shootings.

[Zhukov]

I'm quite happy to generalise and say that rednecks/bogans that hunt are more likely to be crooks than normal people. Also dole bludgers and ignorant of the world they live in.

[Fathom Zero]

waheynow

http://www.destructoid.com/mega-man-...--185145.phtml

[Phoenix Gamma]

If I were a Capcom exec, I probably wouldn't have greenlighted the sequel, to be honest. Hell, the only way a third game even had a chance was if something like the 3DS came out. The first two games haven't aged well, and were pretty flawed even back then, and sales showed it. Here's hoping this one is better now that Capcom has a better grasp on how to develop 3D games.

[Fathom Zero]

I was looking for a copy of the second until I remembered it was fucking expensive. Then I downloaded a copy and found that it's still excellent.

[Phoenix Gamma]

*shrug* We'll have to agree to disagree.

Know what really bothers me though? So many goddamn remakes and ports for the system. Star Fox 64, Ocarina of Time, MGS3, Super Street Fighter 4, Tales of the Abyss. I love those games but $300 is a lot to spend on games I already own!

[Fathom Zero]

Speaking of which, I wonder how much the carts are gonna be. I'm thinking somewhere upwards of $40.

[Guitar Woman]

So after the new TF2 update I can't connect to any servers at all, it just stalls at either "Parsing Server Info" or "Sending Client Info"

The only ones I actually can connect to are disconnected from Steam or crash immediately with the Vertex Buffer bullshit

Goddamnit Valve, is it too much to ask that you don't break your game harder with every single patch

[MLE]

Sounds like they're getting tips from Funcom.

[King Hadas]

I'm gonna jump into that violent video game argument up there.

I think my problem with the whole thing is the assumption that interactivity makes video games somehow more real but in my opinion video games are probably farther from reality, and therefore less of an influence on our actions, than any other medium. Movies are probably the ones closest to reality or at least what we perceive as reality.

Video game gore at its very best is still not very realistic. Dougclayton posted a video of Johnny Cage being cut vertically in half which looked pretty good; except his guts don't spill out, you don't see his dick flopping around even though his pants have also been cut in half (in fact his pants should slide right off), he splurts blobs of blood rather than bleeds it, his dead arms don't hang like dead arms should, his response to being cut in half is a mild aughhh and most important, even though we just watched Johnny die it's probably unlikely he'll become unplayable and we'll never see him again.

It's not that I don't understand people decrying all this violent imagery, I just don't think the violence in video games is somehow more significant than the violence in other media, it's probably less significant in fact. Can Kratos eviscerating mystical centaurs really compare to those horrible Saw movies where ordinary people are brutalized for crap reasons? I have played only one game in my life where the violence upset me and that was Chiller for the NES, that shit was fucked up.

[Dr. Boogie]

If you don't want your kids to see it, that's fine. It's your prerogative, and there are plenty of tools to help you out. Making laws against it, tough, requires something a little more substantial than just a concern parent's opinion.

Plus, as I've said before, no one is really serious about getting legislation out there. Everytime the issue has come up, it's always been some enterprising politician or "expert" trying to make a name for themselves as moral guardians.

[Fathom Zero]

In related news, EA's removing the playable Taliban from Medal of Honor because of the shitty parents of dead soldiers.

I'd like to say I just hate America, but stuff's like this elsewhere with certain things.

[Dr. Boogie]

I read about that on Destructoid, and one of the commenters stated that it was the right thing to do because the Taliban could've sued for defamation.