LET'S ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES

[OxBlood]

Originally Posted by Chojin

if you're some kinda fag with something to prove

my first console had one button and a flight stick, yet i don't get all gay for retro controllers. follow my example, deutschbag.

Rather creative use of my nationality, I´ll give you that. Still, "Normal" Controllers aren´t retro, they are the tried and true way of playing Videogames. Apart from railshooters and the odd game that uses a pointer, there´s no reason to replace them with Kinect or Move or Wii-waggling yet. Why? Because it´s not an improvement. Controller-design seems to have peaked with the 360-controller though that thing is still far from perfect, it´s about the best controller we have right now in terms of usability and haptics.

Just so that we´re clear, I do own a Wii and I play with the Wiimote if the game won´t let me play it with the CC, BUT in most cases the Wiimote is a gimmick and not the optimal way to control most games, apart from some that are specifically tailored towards the Wiimote. Most games aren´t. Even Mario Galaxy (which is an awesome game btw) could be played more effectively with the CC and Nintendo knew that. Which is why they implemented the star-shooting feature.

[k0k0]

It's like nintendo said "Remember when everyone complained that the original xbox controllers were big? Well get a load of this!". It's just too big and bulky looking. I haven't personally handled it but it doesn't look like something I would want to be holding for hours on end. Plus the screen, although having a dimmer, will be bright and distracting in a dark room when I'm playing a game. And I don't like the idea of breaking immersion by looking down at my hands every few minutes. I hate how everything is changing now... kinect, move, wii, wii u... they're ruining my games! I just want a regular controller and tv with some pretty things to look at on it.

[OxBlood]

That whole giant Screenthing makes no real sense to me. I know they love to shove the menus on these things but it not necessary at all. You have to look away from the action on the screen when looking at your controler, same thing happens when you just open a menu on the TV so that´s completely useless.

Apart from the fact that that thing is gigantic and looks totally uncomfortable to hold. The funny thing is, in that strange Propaganda Interview between Iwata and Miyamoto, Iwata asks "so it´s kind of like a classic controller with a screen?" and that´s EXACTLY what it is. It just makes no sense. Sure, you can make games tailored for something like that, but those will feel as forced and wrong as the whole whaggle-stuff they did with the Wii.
Best example for me: Monster Hunter. Sure, you can play it with the Remote and Nunchuck but who in their right mind wants to do that when you can just grab a controller? Works perfectly fine, as it has for the last 20 years.

I don´t get it. Gimmicky and useless. AND expensive to replace once your tablet-controllerthing breaks which it will after a few years I guess.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I want to see the price for the controller. Cuz if you got a friend who wants to play.

[Fathom Zero]

It's only one controller per console that can be connected. Otherwise, it's all Wiimotes.

Stupid.

[Dr. Boogie]

The Wii U controller doesn't seem that new to me. They just combined a couple of features from Sony's stuff, namely a gyroscopic controller and a handheld with Video Out.

I think the controller will be written off as a gimmick, but I'm anxious to see whether the new console will be enough to entice more 3rd-party development. Real 3rd-party development, not endless sequels to "Carnival Games".

[Dr. Boogie]

Destructoid ran a preview piece about a new Kinect shooter called "Blackwater", about the PMC of the same name, but took it down because of all the people saying they hate the company.

Seems like a weird decision, seeing as no one was mad at the guy who wrote it.

[Fathom Zero]

http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-tim...s-203756.phtml

no wai

[Guitar Woman]

The classic controller isn't really retro, though, it's basically the Xbox/PlayStation layout.

Which every controller should adhere to by law, because it works perfectly well 100% of the time.

[Chojin]

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

The classic controller isn't really retro, though, it's basically the Xbox/PlayStation layout.

Which every controller should adhere to by law, because it works perfectly well 100% of the time.

not really; i find having the analog sticks at the bottom of the controller annoying because i always accidentally hit them. for games that don't use the digital pad, you're then holding the controller at a stupid angle to use the sticks.

360 probably has the best traditional console controller. my point to whats-his-fuck though is that in gaming's past, the controller would be developed in tandem with a game. now, software is designed long after the controller comes out and has to awkwardly conform to it. part of what i liked about the wii's promise was a return to the "retro" ideology of an industry that sells experiences instead of software (what happened in actuality is that faggots couldn't deal and were so nestled in their gamepad niche that they just mapped gamepad controls and tacked on waggle, probably because nintendo made them make a concession).

[Phoenix Gamma]

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

The classic controller isn't really retro, though, it's basically the Xbox/PlayStation layout.

Which every controller should adhere to by law, because it works perfectly well 100% of the time.

More like SNES controller but with two extra triggers and two joysticks...which would be the PS1 controller...BUT IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT SHUT UP

[Dr. Boogie]

Except on FPSs, at which point you go to keyboard + mouse. When are devs just doing to add K&B support for their console titles? PCs added controller support without too much trouble.

[Guitar Woman]

I thought the PS3 did something like that already?

Only for like 5 games, I mean, but it would be cool if they made it universal.

[Chojin]

the best combo i've found thus far is g13+mouse. the only game in my entire library that supports the analog features of the g13 is star trek online, however. for some reason, the source engine will let you map an analog controller to digital buttons but will still treat it as digital input, which is the queerest shit.

[Guitar Woman]

that's why I said basically

I don't think console similarity is in any way a bad thing; that way I care less about which console I get and more about the actual games for a change

Unfortunately there haven't been any good video games since goddamn 2007 for some reason

[OxBlood]

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

I don't think console similarity is in any way a bad thing; that way I care less about which console I get and more about the actual games for a change

That´s the only question in my mind when it comes to videogames. I didn´t buy a PS3 because I wanted a PS3, I bought it because I wanted to play InFamous

[King Hadas]

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman

Unfortunately there haven't been any good video games since goddamn 2007 for some reason

This probably has more to do with your age than anything else. You're not a child anymore so games just don't ignite your imagination like they used to. At least that's how it is for me.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Portal 2. Uncharted 2. Arkham Asylum. Mass Effect 2. Super Street Fighter 4. Super Mario Galaxy 2. Punch Out Wii. Left 4 Dead. World of Goo. Super Meatboy. Mario and Luigi 3. The Professor Layton series. Valkyria Chronicles. Fallout 3.

To name a few

[Guitar Woman]

I could go through and cherry pick things to complain about, but I'll just say "ok there have been like 5, shut up"

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

THERES BEEN RESIDENT EVIL 5

[Guitar Woman]

Yeah, that's what I keep thinking, but the brownangray cavalcade of grimdark space and/or regular marines probably isn't helping.

[Nick]

This thread is about 65 to 75 percent Guitar Woman.

[Guitar Woman]

Oh yeah? Well your face is about 60 to 75 percent UGLY

[Nick]

Are you trying to hit on me?

[King Hadas]

What is the best looking video game console? In my opinion it's the Gamecube. I like how it's compact and yet unlike the wii feels totally solid. Also violet was a bold color choice, consoles are usually either white or black.