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[The Leader]

And you also believe that we are in a depression right now even though you say that things will become worse than they were in the '70s? Wouldn't that mean that right now we are in a recession which will lead to a depression... You know, after things get worse than they were in the '70s and they're as bad as they were after '29?

[Grislygus]

holy shit, Coolinator is an oligarchy nutter? I've talked to one of you people in person you guys make the lunar landing theorists look sociable

[Grislygus]

or was zhukov just making that shit up to get a rise out of him

[Dimnos]

Coolie, you got Jeanette to post more and for that I thank you. However that aside you can still go fuck yourself.

[Jeanette X]

Originally Posted by Dimnos

Coolie, you got Jeanette to post more and for that I thank you.

Love you too.

[The Leader]

You don't understand it because you can't even see when you contradict yourself. You can't even read!

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

You don't understand it because you can't even see when you contradict yourself. You can't even read!

Recession definition

A significant decline in activity spread across the economy,
lasting longer than a few months. It is visible in industrial production, employment, real income, and wholesale-retail trade.

Depression definition

A severe and prolonged recession characterized by inefficient economic productivity, high unemployment, and falling price levels.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Recession

Are we in a prolonged recession? If so (2008-2010) then we are officially in a Depression. Acknowledge reality.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

[b]

Are we in a prolonged recession? If so (2008-2010) then we are officially in a Depression. Acknowledge reality.

You write that a recession is a significant decline in activity spread across the economy lasting longer than a few months. You then write that this recession has been going on for more than a few months. In order to be a recession, the decline must last more than a few months. We are in a recession by your definition and your posts, and you obviously have no knowledge of what things were like in the '30s. You really need to get some help with analytical thinking.

[Dimnos]

I can still afford my house, gas, food and insurance as well as pay my bills. Nothing to be depressed about here.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

PEOPLE THINK THE ECONOMY IS SO BAD BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NEW POOR. MY CITIES ECONOMY IS GREAT.

[Pentegarn]

Quote dictionary.com all you want Coolie, but you fail to prove 10% qualifies as 'high unemployment'. The fact is that the prolonged period of 4% unemployment was a fluke, and not at all the norm. 10% unemployment is uncomfortable, but it is not high by honest standards. Not when the rate during the only depression we have ever had were 3 to 5 times that amount.

But I won't stop at that flow in your argument Coolie, your definition calls for a severe recession. This recession is not at the rate of severe, it isn't even as bad as the 70s were, but you want us all in a state of panic (for what I am now forced to believe is for sinister motives) so you not only insist it is a depression, (despite history, facts, the actual definition of a depression, the direct comparison of the 70s recession to now, and everyone posting here disagreeing with you), but then you try to bend reality around your words in a sad desperate attempt to get us all to join you in your log cabin in Montana

[kahljorn]

WEEE:

how laws and regulations have been put in place to encourage off shoring of our manufacturing base.

Like what? Unions? Environmental regulations? Health codes? Not allowing child labor?
I hope that they get rid of these things so that our manufacturing base can rise again

I person who is in debt and getting paid half what the guy before him made is "plenty" of an incentive to start their own business?

Wow, what a generalization. All small business owners are now getting paid half of what every other small business owner got before the "Depression."

And I'm not going to bring up all the taxes, licenses, and selectively enforced regulations that small businesses have to follow.

i'm sure you're not going to bring up anything which would be relevant to your point.
Small business firms MUST Provide health coverage? Interesting:
HERES A QUOTE FOR YOU:
"C. Exemption from Employer Responsibility Requirements
Both the House and the Senate bills would give medium and large firms a financial incentive to provide health insurance coverage to their employees through pay-or-play provisions. These would serve to reduce the financial incentive that some firms have to stop providing employer-sponsored health insurance. However, firms with payrolls or employment levels below a certain threshold would be exempt from these employer responsibility requirements. The proposed thresholds would exempt the vast majority of small firms."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/doc...ess-july24.pdf
Oh hey look, everything you said is wrong -- again.

US citizens living standard has been cut by 2/3rd

Living standards don't constantly rise. Did you know that recessions are considered a natural part of the economy?

College graduates can't even get jobs washing lettuce at the local Jack-In-The-Box.

Maybe they shouldn't have majored in psychology and law.

If the government was run by the people for the people then common sense would suggest that all the natural resources in this country our ares

You don't understand the difference between democracy and capitalism? You don't understand the difference between socio-political systems and economic systems?

You're even dumber than I thought.

Try getting a bill that gives significant funding to Alcohol, Biofuel, Biodiesel, as a fuel source.

Uhh, well significant funding is a relative term, but there's plenty of funding for this type of shit. one thing to consider is that NOTVERY MANY PEOPLE DRIVE alternative energy vehicles because the cars are expensive and its a new, developing technology -- meaning we don't know how reliable it is yet. Interestingly there are tax credits for those who shell out the money to buy them. There's even tax credits for producing ethanol and shit.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Advanced+Energy+Research+Project+Grant&aq =f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=c78e48b898b2787e
there's one of the sources of funding

I highly doubt that. How can you or any other business compete with people making 25 cents an hour?

because people who make 25 cents an hour don't have degrees in chemistry, a highschool education or anything else which is probably necessary for his job?

We must remember the definition of a Recession and that of a Depression. Recessions only last a few months.....after those select number of months then it is defined as a depression.

Wrong again. Many RECESSIONS have lasted more than a few months. Coolie, What is an L-shaped recession?

The answer is a type of recession that can last two or more years. The japanese asset price bubble was an L-shaped recession that lasted 5 years. Look what wikipedia says under L-shaped recession:

Spoilers!

"Because the late-2000s recession in the United States followed a similar economic bubble (the United States housing bubble) some economists fear the U.S. economy could enter a prolonged period of low growth even after recovering from the recession"

A significant decline in activity spread across the economy,
lasting longer than a few months.

two years is longer than a few months, so i don't see the problem.

Depression definition

A severe and prolonged recession

Severe and prolonged is a relative term. SO LETS looK At SOME FAMOUS DEPRESSIONS AND SEE HOW LONG THEY LASTED SO We cAN GEt AN IDeA Of how 'pROLOnged' a depression is:
According to HISTORY, the great depression lasted about TEN YEARS (and it could easily be argued that it lasted longer).
The "LONG DEPRESSION" lasted 23 YEARS.
Panic of 1937 was a five year long depression, whose affects lasted years after.

SO, at the very least a prolonged recession should be around FIVE YEARS? What are we at? Two years? We're fine. ALSO L-SHAPED RECEsSIOn. Remember the L-shaped recession in Japan lasted at least five years.

COOLIE'S ARGUMENT IN A NUTsHELL:
BEING TALL IS LIKE BEING OVER SIX FEET TALL. BEING VERY TALL IS LIKE BEING EXTRA TALL. COOLIE IS 6'2, THEREFORE HE IS VERY TALL BECAUSE THATS EXTRA TALLNESS!


PS L-shaped recession rapes your argument in the assgina.

[Pentegarn]

In other news, Coolie will be using this article to disprove evolution

http://aquarium-fishtalk.com/evoluti...n-sea-monkeys/

[Colonel Flagg]

Damn. Coolie, I can't tell if you are purposely talking like a complete moron, or if you're doing it just to get everyone angry at you. Truly you need a verbal smackdown.

And the small businesses are there, and they're growing in number.

And the only one who said we were in a depression was you. As I recall, no one agreed with you.

I'll have to start calling you Cassandra, except she was right most of the time, and you're just wrong.

Again, only my opinion. I know you'll take issue with this, and either ignore me, or contradict me again. That's how you win arguments, right?

EDIT: I forgot the best part (thanks, Kahl)

Originally Posted by Cassandra

I highly doubt that. How can you or any other business compete with people making 25 cents an hour?

Very easily, but if you can't understand why you're wrong about small businesses, you won't understand the reason:

Spoilers!

It's called kanban, and it's something we had to learn from the Japanese (hence the word). We can provide product in a day, when overseas companies with unskilled workers and shittier raws can provide the same product in weeks. This gives local companies (such as ours) a significant advantage over offshore corporations. It's why most Japanese companies now make cars in the USA. And it's not a secret - comapnies in SEPA are learning how to incorporate this into an overall business strategy that allows them to do more with less, and keep their workforce employed and well-paid. Win-win situation, big guy.

[kahljorn]

I have a feeling you're going to be waiting a severe, prolonged period of time for your answer :O

[The Leader]

Good job ignoring Kahljorn and trying to win an argument by writing things like "swish" and "next."

Next.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

Good job ignoring Kahljorn and trying to win an argument by writing things like "swish" and "next."

Next.

There are no winners or losers here, there is only reality and the individuals capability to view it for what it is.

If you want to view paradise
Simply look around and view it
Anything you want to, do it
Wanta change the world?
There's nothing
To it......

[Zhukov]

There is no reality here. Only fluoride and oligarchs and you're an idiot that has been shown for nothing less than brainless in all of your threads so far.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

There is no reality here. Only fluoride and oligarchs and you're an idiot that has been shown for nothing less than brainless in all of your threads so far.

Don't be bitter.

You should read up on who funded the communists into power. You'd probably find it interesting.

[Zhukov]

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

There are no winners or losers here, there is only reality and the individuals capability to view it for what it is.

But right there you are saying there are winners and losers, most people who can dissect information and see the world for what it is and people like you you seem to have difficulty even understanding their own point of view.

[kahljorn]

fortunately, I don't even expect responses

Coolie:
walmart gave them some money? So what? I don't understand what your point is. you were right about them getting money from walmart? Did somebody argue that point with you?
Do you think the fact that walmart gave them some money makes the rest of your arguments less retarded? Is that what you were swishing? that you got one, irrelevant fact correct out of everything you have posted?

We have to realize that this is social engineering. Controlling the minds of these defenseless immigrants and turning them on the American people.

Do you think the fact that walmart gave them money makes this part true? like, because one part of your argument was true the ridiculous part must also be true? How is it social engineering? How are they turning them on the american people by giving them money to help them join our job force. HEY HERE"S SOME MONEY GUYS, ARENT WE JUST ASSHOLES?

you're a retard.

[Pentegarn]

What do you expect? He lives in a cabin deep in the woods of Montana (with all the other crazy conspiracy theorists).

I am surprised he even has internet to be honest.

[kahljorn]

he doesn't live in a cabin deep in the woods of montana, HE IS A CABIN DEEP IN THE WOODS OF MONTANA :O :O :O :O

the cabin is autonomous and its consciousness is satellite internet :O

The recent immigration bill will affect him because his lumbers were jacked from the pristine forests of canada; MAKING HIM AN ILLEgAL IMMIGRANT

I KNEW IT

Spoilers!

SWISH!

[Pentegarn]

That's a very very horrible beast you just described