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Old May 5th, 2010, 01:49 PM       
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:12 PM       
THE AMOUNT OF SODIUM FLUORIDE IN WATER IS NOWHERE NEAR A HARMFUL DOSE. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

I posted this once already. Read it this time.

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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:20 PM       
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THE AMOUNT OF SODIUM FLUORIDE IN WATER IS NOWHERE NEAR A HARMFUL DOSE. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

I posted this once already. Read it this time.

Plus you completely misunderstood the Flagg post you just quoted
But it's still considered a poison? I don't understand the disconnect here. Either it's a poison or it isn't. It doesn't matter how low the quantity is, it's still in there and people are still drinking, bathing, cooking, and cleaning their clothes in it.

Why should I brush my teeth with a paste that says "Warning call poison control "on it? And how much of it is getting absorbed into my gums and then into my blood stream? I don't feel comfortable with that at all. Nor am I comfortable with the government medicating their populations with a well know industrial poison.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:26 PM       
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THE AMOUNT OF SODIUM FLUORIDE IN WATER IS NOWHERE NEAR A HARMFUL DOSE. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

I posted this once already. Read it this time.

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It isn't the first time, nor will it be the last.

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But it's still considered a poison? I don't understand the disconnect here. Either it's a poison or it isn't. It doesn't matter how low the quantity is, it's still in there and people are still drinking, bathing, cooking, and cleaning their clothes in it.

Why should I brush my teeth with a paste that says "Warning call poison control "on it? And how much of it is getting absorbed into my gums and then into my blood stream? I don't feel comfortable with that at all. Nor am I comfortable with the government medicating their populations with a well know industrial poison.
Munching on a bar of potassium would probably be fatal, and injecting potassium solution into the bloodstream can kill you, but neither of these facts take away from the fact that your body NEEDS potassium to function properly.

Again, buy a biochemistry textbook. Read it. Understand it. And don't believe every darned blog and video you come across on the internet.
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You know, most of the medicines people use are poisonous when taken in great amounts, maybe they should not be prescribed at all?
People don't take medicine in great amounts and most designer drugs today can be swapped with organic suppliments instead.

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Munching on a bar of potassium would probably be fatal, and injecting potassium solution into the bloodstream can kill you, but neither of these facts take away from the fact that your body NEEDS potassium to function properly.
The human body doesn't need Sodium fluoride to function properly. It's actually the opposite, it doesn't function properly WITH sodium fluoride because its a poison and affects the nervous system, skeletal structure, and numerous other organs systems.

just type in MSDS sodium fluoride.




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I can't disprove the fluoride deception documentary. Free on google video.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:47 PM       
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People don't take medicine in great amounts and most designer drugs today can be swapped with organic suppliments instead.
People don't use tooth paste in great amounts, nor drink water in great amounts
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Munching on a bar of potassium would probably be fatal, and injecting potassium solution into the bloodstream can kill you, but neither of these facts take away from the fact that your body NEEDS potassium to function properly.
The human body doesn't need Sodium fluoride to function properly. It's actually the opposite, it doesn't function properly WITH sodium fluoride because its a poison and affects the nervous system, skeletal structure, and numerous other organs systems.

just type in MSDS sodium fluoride.
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I was citing an example (as many others have as well) that certain chemicals are beneficial in small doses, yet toxic in large doses. Hell, Vitamin A can kill you - just ask anyone who's eaten fugu.

Read this part very carefully:

Sodium fluoride, in appropriately small doses, has been clinically proven to reduce the incidence of tooth decay without harmful side effects.

Don't believe me? Fine, buy, read and understand a biochemistry textbook, or ask a dentist.


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I can't disprove the fluoride deception documentary. Free on google video.
You get what you pay for.

Don't be a sheep. Please. Think for yourself, make your own arguments and opinions, and don't parrot those of internet bloggers.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:54 PM       
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But it's still considered a poison? I don't understand the disconnect here. Either it's a poison or it isn't. It doesn't matter how low the quantity is, it's still in there and people are still drinking, bathing, cooking, and cleaning their clothes in it.
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Why should I brush my teeth with a paste that says "Warning call poison control "on it? And how much of it is getting absorbed into my gums and then into my blood stream? I don't feel comfortable with that at all. Nor am I comfortable with the government medicating their populations with a well know industrial poison.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:23 PM       
You know, most of the medicines people use are poisonous when taken in great amounts, maybe they should not be prescribed at all?
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:24 PM       
That's like how when I called Carbon Monoxide a poison and you said how it's not.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:33 PM       
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That's like how when I called Carbon Monoxide a poison and you said how it's not.
When was this? And how did I miss this?
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:25 PM       
People clean their clothes with bleach too. Are you really this stupid?
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:28 PM       
I think I may have just come up with a solution. Stop eating and drinking. That will prevent "them" from contaminating my bodily fluids.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:37 PM       
It was in the Climate debate threads. I am tipsy, though.
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In fact I meant Dioxide. DON'T JUDGE ME!
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:46 PM       
The air you breathe has more poison in it than your goddamn sodium fluoride toothpaste you mongoloid
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Old May 5th, 2010, 03:55 PM       
Prescription free drugs can be lethal in great amounts.

Vitamins are lethal in great amounts

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Vitamins are lethal in great amounts

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Yes, but,

Sodium Fluoride is not a drug nor is it a vitamin. It's a poison and has no medicinal value.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 04:09 PM       
Sodium fluoride has medical value

it is not poisonous if not taken in great amounts
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it is not poisonous if not taken in great amounts
No,

It's still poisonous and it still causes harm in any amounts and there is no way of measuring your intake, especially if its added to drinking water.

It's coded as 6.1 Poison.

Calcium Suppliments are not coded 6.1, they aren't hazardous.

Sodium fluoride is, Poisons are not medicine.

If you want to dispose of Sodium Fluoride you have to call up a Hazardous Material disposal service and actually pay large amounts of money to have them cart it away.

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Old May 5th, 2010, 04:18 PM       
there is about 0,5-1 mg of sodium fluoride in a litre of water. For a person who weighs 70 kg harmful dose of sodium fluoride would be 5-10 g in a day. That means you'd have to drink ludicrous amounts of water. You'd die of water intoxication before getting fluoride poisoning.
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