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Old Dec 18th, 2004, 09:17 PM       
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Not to sound insulting, but you come across as very naive. You make it sound like you truly believe IT is some safezone when it comes to employment and a future... but you do see it coming, right? You do notice that wages are dropping across the board and to remain competitive, all companies will have to follow suit eventually. What will you do when programming becomes factory work that is outsourced like virtually all production? Programmers, even good ones, are not safe.


Anyone who stays in pure programming as their career is retarded. That's no different than working as a Wal-Mart greeter for your entire life. The idea is to move up the ladder to the positions where you are designing the software and telling other people what to do. Why you'd ever want to stay in the same position, endangering yourself to every new grad that comes along is beyond me.

The low wages and outsourcing are only affecting the large sectors that have a handful of big competitors. It's not occurring in the smaller specialty markets. Why? Because it makes no sense for the 100-employee company to do so.

Now stuff like tech suppport is a different story...

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By the way, I've also got a job lined up straight out of school, and I'm getting a worthless BA in Music.
Camp Snoopy needs its brass band, so duh.
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Old Dec 18th, 2004, 10:19 PM       
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Camp Snoopy needs its brass band, so duh.
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Old Dec 18th, 2004, 11:50 PM       
Actually, I have to quit the Snoopy band after graduation and give my spot up to some youngster. Sad, really.
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 08:59 AM       
Unionize!

Or go all Pied Piper on their asses and on your last day, lead all the children out of the mall and have them disappear.
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 12:26 PM       
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 12:49 PM       
I'm getting a worthless art degree as well. And as I refuse to go into the advertising business altogether I'll probably serve burgers or pick up trash for 8 hours a day and that's completely ok with me. I'll have the rest of the day to look forward to, at least. I'll leave it up to monkeys and satanists to persue more lofty career goals because as we all know, career, money and prestige is everything.
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 11:26 PM       
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The company I'm at right now told me yesterday that they can guarantee me a full-time position when I graduate. I don't know anyone with an Arts degree who can say the same thing.
you're luck that the company is offering you that but if you think that engineers and economists are afforded anymore security then designers at an advertising firm, I'd like to see your reasoning.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 12:13 AM       
When did I say I had career goals?
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 08:57 AM       
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The company I'm at right now told me yesterday that they can guarantee me a full-time position when I graduate. I don't know anyone with an Arts degree who can say the same thing.
you're luck that the company is offering you that but if you think that engineers and economists are afforded anymore security then designers at an advertising firm, I'd like to see your reasoning.
The company is growing at 100% per year in a market with no competitors.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 07:45 PM       
ok fine it's not luck you fucking kyke! Is that what you fucking wanted to hear? god fucking dammit. I had it with your constent shit. It's like all you ever do is throw your goddamn feces on my face and then kiss me good night. I'm not gonna put up with this bull shit any more, I'm packing my bags.

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