YAY!!!! Missouri strikes down juvenile death penalty

[ziggytrix]

Violent and non-violent offenders should go to different prisons.

[punkgrrrlie10]

they are usually at least kept separate, and people on death row are basically in solitary confinement for the most part. They only let them work out w/other violent offenders. And usually, the serious criminal go to state prison while the misdemeanants do a stint in county.

[The One and Only...]

Does this research into the cost of life imprisonment take into account that new prisons might need to be made if we kept prisoners alive?

What about healthcare?

[punkgrrrlie10]

Do you take into account how many people have actually been put to death? That it's not that large a number and we wouldn't need to build entire prisons to keep them? Texas, the biggest DP state has put to death maybe 30 persons under 18 since 1977 when the DP was reinstated w/in the U.S. And perhaps if you wanna talk costs and policy, we should rethink funding and victimless crimes. Laws that put away persons who buy drugs and think about legalizing prostitution..."crimes" which actually hurt no one. If money is such a big deal, why did we expend so much money before this year on sting operations to put away "dangerous" homosexuals? There are alot of problems w/the system and where the money goes. Housing violent offenders and fears of releasing them wouldn't happen if there weren't so many stupid prosecutions where DAs only search for harsh penalties for crap that doesn't really harm anyone b/c they want to get their name in the paper so they can continue to pursue their political careers.

[The One and Only...]

It's not how many people that have been put to death; it's how many are on death row/life imprisonment that could be killled: and while some of the things we put people in prison for are idiotic, I don't see them changing anytime soon.

[CaptainBubba]

My position on this is simple: I put no faith in the government to decide who gets to live because as a rule I distrust their judgement in all matters, and since life is without a doubt the most precious thing in existence, they cannot have that right.

I used to be an ardent death penalty supporter simply for the fact that I endorse the practice of revenge, but realized that this would be hypocritical to my entire political philosophy of restricting the government.

On a purely personal level I have no problem with individuals extracting revenge however. Of course that can't ever be legally permissable but I know it'd be damn hard to stop me from killing someone who raped/killed any of my loved ones.

[Immortal Goat]

Originally Posted by CaptainBubba

On a purely personal level I have no problem with individuals extracting revenge however.

Did you mean EXACTING?

[punkgrrrlie10]

Originally Posted by The One and Only...

It's not how many people that have been put to death; it's how many are on death row/life imprisonment that could be killled: and while some of the things we put people in prison for are idiotic, I don't see them changing anytime soon.

but those people would be in there anyway. How does that affect having to spend more money on prisons, when they are already there?

[The One and Only...]

They would be permanently there, as well as all the future death row inmates. Instead of new inmates filling up the cells of the old, you find new inmates stacking on top of the old.

[CaptainBubba]

Originally Posted by Immortal Goat

Did you mean EXACTING?

yes.

[punkgrrrlie10]

Originally Posted by The One and Only...

They would be permanently there, as well as all the future death row inmates. Instead of new inmates filling up the cells of the old, you find new inmates stacking on top of the old.

That's happening now as it is...so what's your point? It's not changing w/the death penalty being active as it is now. People die in jail when they are there for life. They die from old age. It's not like they are there and immortal. It still takes from 10-25 years to execute a wo/man. Even then, some sentences get converted to life for whatever reason and then they have wasted a bunch of judicial resources to get to that point.