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Old Mar 16th, 2010, 01:31 PM       
I can see how this would work in the future, but by the time the hardware catches up with that software, they might finder a better more fluid solution.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:44 AM        question
the nano will be the future tech off course coz it could make all things better ... what do u think tadao... don't u believe people
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Old Mar 16th, 2010, 02:00 PM       
They can make a mouse curser move with brain power, I don't think brain jacking is too implausible.
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Old Mar 16th, 2010, 02:05 PM       
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They can make a mouse curser move with brain power, I don't think brain jacking is too implausible.
I saw that too, and it is definitely an amazing feat, but I don't think it has much to do with brain-jacking in the sense we're talking about. Science has proven that it is possible to control outside things with brain impulses (though the concept is still in it's infancy) but what we're talking about here is sensory INPUT, and then controlling that sensory input purely in the brain as if it were a lucid dream. I haven't seen any science experiment attempt something like that, and would be VERY intrigued if there was such an experiment that I didn't know about.

EDIT: It just donned on me that it may be possible and safe if instead if literally tapping the brain with wires the game was to somehow hack your dreams. I see what Chojin means by having more than one option now.
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Old Mar 16th, 2010, 02:23 PM       
I just saw a House episode were they did just that! All lies of course, but I've been told that if I can dream it, I can do it!

Seriously though, I'm talking about Ghost in the Shell type of brain jacking. It's really is amazing what we have done technically with materials outside our body, and we haven't figured out how to harness our bodies potential, but let's just say that we found a way to jack the brain and people were having problems seeing and controlling what everyone else sees and controls. I'm sure there would be a tutorial to tell you that this is an apple and that apple is red, not green. Eventually you brain would recognize those inputs, but that's just the old dogs. The kids would adapt to it by kindergarten.

That is all very speculative, but this is a very speculative subject.
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Old Mar 18th, 2010, 12:21 AM       
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but I've been told that if I can dream it, I can do it!
I know you're probably being an ass here, but it's really really true.
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Old Mar 16th, 2010, 11:07 PM       
You're asking me for scientific reasoning on technology that I speculated would perhaps exist a few thousand years in the future? That's tough. I can't do that.

That's like Herodotus turning to Archimedes (let's just say they lived together, alright?) and saying "You know, I think one day people will walk on the moon." And get the reply "Bullshit! That's impossible! Tell me how it could be achieved! It's too far to walk, for starters."
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Old Mar 17th, 2010, 12:11 AM       
Suddenly, this thread has become too long to read.
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Old Mar 17th, 2010, 10:27 AM       
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Old Mar 17th, 2010, 09:30 PM       
Way ahead of you, Poindexter.
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Old Mar 19th, 2010, 05:21 AM       
this guys totally right though. i just watced the matrix recently and in it they talk about how the world was too perfect (AT FIRST) and that the brain couldn't comprehend it and everybody DIEd.

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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:04 AM       
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this guys totally right though. i just watced the matrix recently and in it they talk about how the world was too perfect (AT FIRST) and that the brain couldn't comprehend it and everybody DIEd.

ENTIRE CROPS WERE LOST, MR ANDERSON.
Uck. >_< I don't mean "too perfect" in the Matrix sense, because Agent Smith meant they made the virtual world a utopia and humans didn't like it so they suicided like a Jihadian.

When I mean "too perfect" I mean SHITLOADS OF EXTRANEOUS DETAIL THAT IS ACTUALLY NECESSARY.
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Old Mar 22nd, 2010, 12:48 PM       
I wish I had history enabled, because yesterday I found a thread on a blog where Bruce Dell (CEO of Unlimited Detail and the guy from the video) basically ADMITTED that it was useless for animation, and would be background-only for quite some time.

Here it is:
http://www.tkarena.com/Articles/tabi...e-Know-It.aspx

"the system isn’t ray tracing at all or anything like ray tracing. Ray tracing uses up lots of nasty multiplication and divide operators and so isn’t very fast or friendly.
Unlimited Detail is a sorting algorithm that retrieves only the 3d atoms (I wont say voxels any more it seems that word doesn’t have the prestige in the games industry that it enjoys in medicine and the sciences) that are needed, exactly one for each pixel on the screen, it displays them using a very different procedure from individual 3d to 2d conversion, instead we use a mass 3d to 2d conversion that shares the common elements of the 2d positions of all the dots combined. And so we get lots of geometry and lots of speed, speed isn’t fantastic yet compared to hardware, but its very good for a software application that’s not written for dual core. We get about 24-30 fps 1024*768 for that demo of the pyramids of monsters. This will probably be released as “backgrounds only” for the next few years, until we have made a lot more tools to work with, then we will move in to sprites as well."

Voxels and sprites? Sega Saturn much?
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