How to trick girls into thinking they like you?

[The Fifth Man]

Y'know, there's actually quite a bit of good stuff in this thread.
Paste most of it together on one page and you pretty much have
how it is.

The bottom line is: Most people, male or female, are
shallow and make stupid decisions. All you can do is hope you
end up with someone that's worth their breath somewhere
down the line. And hope that you don't fuck it up with them.

[The One and Only...]

Originally Posted by Perndog

You have to get her attention first, champ, and be interesting enough for her to be bothered by your indifference.

I do get their attention. I don't know how, but I do get it.

Listening to even the most obscene death metal does not qualify as dangerous. Getting in fights, breaking rules, or if you want to skip that route (I do), being (or seeming) unreliable/unpredictable, having dangerous hobbies, etc.

That doesn't explain the killings that people suspect of me.

Loner = shy. Shy = antithesis of confident.

Guy who talks to the girls freely, easily, and casually = confident.

Umm... no. Loner as in people annoy the shit out of me.

I do talk to girls freely, easily, and casually. I just don't go out of my way to do it.

Girls like sex or at least sexiness. Cold fish or someone who doesn't care about sex at all = icky nerd. Balance, dude.

I don't think you understand what I meant by cold fish. I don't display many emotions, but that doesn't mean I don't care about sex.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Mike

So like every girl in the world you like hanging out with guys who are funny and friendly even if they're awkward and have arms like emaciated chicken legs - but would you ask them to fuck you and would you be proud about referring to one as your boyfriend IN PUBLIC?

Well would you, Slinky?

[Anonymous]

Oao. You're a shy, anti-social nerd. There really isn't any way to justify it.

I mean, you could go, 'The sheer amount of snack cakes I inhale obviously says that I don't care about the state of my well-being, my parents' funds, or even my cardiovascular system. This makes me dangerous to myself, and probably even to other people. I'm a man of mystery.'

No. You're just a roly-poly little man whose only female relationship is with Miss Hostess.

[The One and Only...]

I'd take you seriously if it were true.

[Matt Harty]

Originally Posted by Chojin

Oao. You're a shy, anti-social nerd. There really isn't any way to justify it.

[Slinky Ferret]

Originally Posted by Mike

Well would you, Slinky?

Well Mike, I've had boyfriends of all types and yes I've been out with some absolutely gorgous boys and some er how can I put this, well they were not good looking at all. I don't really care what other people think of my boyfriends looks. I try to look beyond the outside to the person underneath. If someone has personality thats what really attracts me, its not looks that turn me on, its the "small talk".

[Matt Harty]

I tried that, and once they're personality starts changing, which it will, all you'll have to look at is their ugly face.

[Perndog]

Originally Posted by The One and Only...

I do get their attention. I don't know how, but I do get it.

Then take heed of the "be interesting" part, and not in a weird nerdly freaky way.

That doesn't explain the killings that people suspect of me.

If you don't get the difference between the good kind of dangerous and the creepy kind, you're an utterly lost cause. If people even jokingly suspect you of killings, you are the creepy kind and this is an enormous obstacle to your love life. Trust me.

Umm... no. Loner as in people annoy the shit out of me.

I do talk to girls freely, easily, and casually. I just don't go out of my way to do it.

If people annoy the shit out of you, why are you so interested in picking up a girl?

And if any of your threads about reading signals were serious, all indications are that you do not talk to girls easily and casually or at least do not give that appearance. If we get that impression over the Internet, you can bet the ladies get it in person.

[quote]I don't think you understand what I meant by cold fish. I don't display many emotions, but that doesn't mean I don't care about sex.[/quote}

I understood perfectly. You don't outwardly display that you are interested in sex. From your self-description, regardless of what's going on in your head, you act more like a walking corpse than a vibrant, exciting, and attractive male. "Cold fish" is never a descriptor that can be seen in a positive light, and if you can apply it to yourself, your problem should be too obvious to need anyone's advice.

You're in high school. Watch the jocks. If you want to get laid, act like them. If you want an intelligent, interesting female companion, it's not hard to make friends with girls. If you want a worthwhile companion who will also have sex with you, don't even bother trying until you get to college. It'll take more time than you have before graduation to change your attitude, let alone your rapidly crystallizing reputation. My personality changed somewhere around 10th grade but the girls at my school always hung on to their impression of me from 7th grade (they still do, which is why I don't try and date girls I went to high school with). That's how it works.

[Mike]

Ok, slinky. If you aren't lying, then you are very rare. Your advice applies to such a small percentage of the population that it's not even worth mentioning.

[The One and Only...]

Originally Posted by Perndog

If people annoy the shit out of you, why are you so interested in picking up a girl?

Not all people annoy, just many of them. It's not as if I lack any friends. What I meant by loner is that I don't seem to need much human contact, largely in part because I generally avoid social gatherings.

And if any of your threads about reading signals were serious, all indications are that you do not talk to girls easily and casually or at least do not give that appearance. If we get that impression over the Internet, you can bet the ladies get it in person.

Perhaps I do put off that image, but it could only be because I never initiate a conversation with them. Except the girl I sit next to in science, but that's because I sit next to her. That class is so boring that I have to talk to someone.

I understood perfectly. You don't outwardly display that you are interested in sex. From your self-description, regardless of what's going on in your head, you act more like a walking corpse than a vibrant, exciting, and attractive male. "Cold fish" is never a descriptor that can be seen in a positive light, and if you can apply it to yourself, your problem should be too obvious to need anyone's advice.

I believe I misunderstood what cold fish means, although I would have to say that it is an accurate description of how I appear to the vast majority. The exception, of course, may be the girl in science.

Although I would like to ask you - if a few girls ask you to sit by them (another girl left, leaving an empty seat) in class, all the while telling another guy not to sit there, would you consider it flirting? If so, would you please explain to me why I have such an easier time with the sophomores than with the freshmen?

You're in high school. Watch the jocks. If you want to get laid, act like them. If you want an intelligent, interesting female companion, it's not hard to make friends with girls. If you want a worthwhile companion who will also have sex with you, don't even bother trying until you get to college. It'll take more time than you have before graduation to change your attitude, let alone your rapidly crystallizing reputation. My personality changed somewhere around 10th grade but the girls at my school always hung on to their impression of me from 7th grade (they still do, which is why I don't try and date girls I went to high school with). That's how it works.

Right now, I just want my life to quit being such an endless cliche. It's driving me nuts.

[Schimid]

Originally Posted by OAO

...largely in part because I generally avoid social gatherings.

That's it, you fag.

EDIT - Hold on, let me elaborate.

Basically what you're saying is "I act like I don't need a girlfriend because I'm so quiet and lonely and God I need a girlfriend."

Get what I'm saying? Do you?

[AChimp]

If OAO really wants a girlfriend, he should stop being such a faggot about laissez faire this, and snide remark about his ideological superiority that.

[Perndog]

It wouldn't have become a cliche if it hadn't been the case for millions of guys before you, OAO.

I would consider the situation you mentioned an example of the girls being bothered by the other guy, unless you have a reason to believe that they like him but still prefer you.

And listen to Schimid. He's near your age and has better luck than you.

[CaptainBubba]

First find a girl whos interested in you. You can't make one become interested in you without far far more work than its worth. And its not. If they aren't intersted without concious effort by you then things will end up badly anyway. If you have to use tricks for it to work then it would be an empty relationship that you'd regret having started.

AND I KNOW EVERYTHING BECAUSE I'M GETTIN SOME.

[Slinky Ferret]

Originally Posted by Mike

Ok, slinky. If you aren't lying, then you are very rare. Your advice applies to such a small percentage of the population that it's not even worth mentioning.

No I don't think I am completely alone on that one. In my town the are quite alot of girls who genuinely go for boys for their personality and they definately want a "nice" boy not the dangerous type. Of course then you get the others who just want to fuck all the men and are too drunk to care about looks.

I also think the internet can help because its normally talk before you look. In that way you get to know a side of someone's personality before you actually meet them. I think this is how most people who don't regard themselves as good looking can pull.

I don't think anyone is 100% ugly, they always have a redeming physical feature. Most of the time its their eyes.

I think he'll be fine once he goes to college or whatever is your equivilent of university. If your freshers week is anything like ours he'll get a girl.

[glowbelly]

he's afraid to go to college or rather he has some stupid excuse as to why he doesn't have to/want to go to school.

[James]

Originally Posted by glowbelly

he's afraid to go to college or rather he has some stupid excuse as to why he doesn't have to/want to go to school.

I was forced to withdraw after my first semester, due to severe depression. Take that for whatever you want, I don't give a shit.

So fine, there are no tricks, there's no point to this thread. I'm very disappointed in you all. Worthless.

[The One and Only...]

Originally Posted by Perndog

I would consider the situation you mentioned an example of the girls being bothered by the other guy, unless you have a reason to believe that they like him but still prefer you.

I can see I need to put the events into sequence:

1 - The one girl leaves, leaving an empty seat.

2 - The other girls invite me over to their seat.

3 - I hesitate; they say "please," etc.

4 - Other guy offers to take seat.

5 - They prevent him from taking the seat, saying that it is mine.

6 - I move to the other seat.

Now what do you consider it?

[Terra]

Why didn't you take the seat they offered OAO? If I'm reading this correctly, they offered you the seat but you took the OTHER seat? Why was this?

[whoreable]

I understood perfectly. You don't outwardly display that you are interested in sex. From your self-description, regardless of what's going on in your head, you act more like a walking corpse than a vibrant, exciting, and attractive male. "Cold fish" is never a descriptor that can be seen in a positive light, and if you can apply it to yourself, your problem should be too obvious to need anyone's advice.

wow that totally describes me

[Matt Harty]

Wasn't this about James?

[The One and Only...]

Originally Posted by Terra

Why didn't you take the seat they offered OAO? If I'm reading this correctly, they offered you the seat but you took the OTHER seat? Why was this?

The OTHER seat IS the seat they offered. I used the word other to differentiate it from the seat I was sitting in at the time.

[Schimid]

Dude, shut the fuck up.

Honestly, we've posted all the advice we have and you keep whining and crying. Who cares if it was flirting, you're too meek and uninteresting to rise to the occasion anyway.

I wish I could meet you so I could give you a fucking wedgie.

[The One and Only...]

I'm not whining and crying - I'm trying to explain to Terra what happened.

And I'm grateful for your advice.