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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 09:14 PM       
I believe in Micro, not Macro when it comes to evolution.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 10:25 PM       
Well, it's not like you can get away with saying "the devil put the dinosaurs on Earth to tempt us to not believe the bible." The Church doesn't endorse that bullshit. Unless you have well thought-out ideas that uphold Creationism, and believe me, I've seen them all, you're just over-extending your faith where it doesn't need to go. You follow a religion that allows for the liberty of scientific reason. Don't be a jackass and throw that away.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 11:27 PM       
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all religions have a creation story...AL religions have some way of explaining things that we can't....that's what they're there for...to answer those questions that we can't answer ourselves...
The key word here is "story". I could take some psychedelic drugs right this second and make up (or have a VISION!!) of my own.

My point is, short of God himself unmistakably showing up and saying "YES THIS IS RIGHT!" then how do we know?
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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 11:30 PM       
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I'm sorry, but when carbon dating says some Viking artifacts are from the years 2130 and beyond, you know something is up.
Sorry for the double post, I can't believe I missed this one...

Vince, post a link. I want to know what dumbass carbon dates something to 2130 and actually believes it. Unless you meant BC, but then you didn't really specify, and in context it looks like it could mean AD, because in context you're trying to make carbon dating look ludicrous, and futuristic carbon dates are just that.

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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 11:33 PM       
Protestants are a whole nother story. It is futile to argue with anyone who uses a source which they believe is infallible.

Because God said so = I win, kThxBye
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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 11:43 PM       
That's a bit childish, but well...

"The person is smart, but the people are stupid."
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Old Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:01 AM       
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I'm sorry, but when carbon dating says some Viking artifacts are from the years 2130 and beyond, you know something is up.
OH, LIKE THERE AREN'T VIKINGS IN THE FUTURE
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Old Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:13 AM       
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Old Apr 23rd, 2003, 07:07 AM       
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Old Apr 23rd, 2003, 02:56 PM       
He has Vikings and Ice Pirates confused
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Old Apr 24th, 2003, 02:10 AM        radiometric dating
I'm sorry I haven't taken the time to read the whole thread since it is 5 pages huge and I should be writing a paper. I noticed people debating the innaccuracies of Carbon dating. While its true that Carbon 14 does have such a short half life that it cannot be used to measure the age of the earth, other radioactive isotopes can. Scietists DO NOT use carbon 14 to measure the age of rocks. They use other isotopes that have longer half lives such as Potasium 40 (that may be the wrong number). Radiometric dating has been conisitent in measuring the age of the earth. Of the thousands of samples taken from rocks nearly all indicate that the earth is roughly 4.6 billion years old.

I find many creationist arguments frustratingly uninformed.

If anyone cares I'd describe myself as a non-spiritual agnostic. I'm inclined to think there is no God and I'm absolutley certain that if he exists he has minimal interaction with this world.
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Old Apr 24th, 2003, 08:47 AM       
That's really the creationist mentality, isn't it?

"SINCE CARBON DATING ISN'T 100% ACCURATE (even though it's improbable the discrepancy is billions of years), and you don't have EVERY SINGLE BIT OF PROOF YOU NEED, the book of Genesis is correct."

That's what we called an appeal to ignorance in my logic class.
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