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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 12:00 PM       
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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 04:31 PM       
I am a lump of carbon whose shape and attitude has been deterministicaly shaped by outside forces and causes and, as such, have never had a will of my own and have never really been an "I"... apparently.
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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 06:02 PM       
I don't know. I have depersonalisation disorder
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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 09:39 PM       
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I am a lump of carbon whose shape and attitude has been deterministicaly shaped by outside forces and causes and, as such, have never had a will of my own and have never really been an "I"... apparently.
YOU SAY IT LIKE IT'S SUCH A BAD THING!

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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 10:22 PM       
'European Socialists' are arseholes. :/

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Old Jan 26th, 2004, 10:35 PM        Re: Personal Identity
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Old Jan 27th, 2004, 04:33 PM       
Oh ... Hi NAMBLA!
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Old Jan 27th, 2004, 04:53 PM       
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Old Jan 27th, 2004, 08:44 PM       
If there is no, "I" then how is there a concept of, "I". How come everytime I say I, you correlate with, "Kahl"(or moron, or whatever it may be, you can still make that distinction). Even if from a blinded perceptional view, my voice still echoes from the corner by the television.

"I" may be an illusion, but for some reason plenty of people seem to subscribe to that illusion. That gives it a reality, even only if based in the insanity of unified thought.

THere is also the issue of personal responsibility. You know what you have done, and have not done(and what you should do). Just like those around you do, regardless of if what you have done and have not done were just illusions created that morning when you woke up, like in Dark City. All people still make the associations...

In effect, it doesn't really matter if there is an "I" or not, because you will still be held liable for you, and here on this wavelength of reality there is a very real illusion of you and I.

And of course, outside of all that, there is no I, but outside of that is somewhere we cannot see-- at this moment.
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Old Jan 28th, 2004, 04:49 PM       
"I" is everything that is not "them".
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