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Old Jul 29th, 2004, 05:40 PM        Ricky Williams chooses pot over football.
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MIAMI (AP) - Retired Dolphins running back Ricky Williams said he failed a third drug test for marijuana use, which would cost him a four-game suspension if he decides to return to the NFL, The Miami Herald reported on its Web site Thursday.

Williams told the newspaper that marijuana played a larger role in his retirement than he indicated when he walked away after just five pro seasons. He said he learned of the failed test and possible suspension days before telling coach Dave Wannstedt last week that he was through playing.




Williams said, however, that there were "a hundred reasons" for his surprising decision to retire, and his desire to continue smoking marijuana was only one of them.

"I didn't quit football because I failed a drug test," he told the Herald. "I failed a drug test because I was ready to quit football."

Williams said he's not addicted to marijuana.

Coach Dave Wannstedt said the Dolphins have received no notification from the NFL regarding a third failed drug test, and Williams' latest revelation caught them by surprise.

"We knew nothing about it," Wannstedt said. "I'm totally surprised and shocked again."

Wannstedt said he's eager to move beyond the Williams situation and open training camp Saturday.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello declined comment when reached by The Associated Press.

In May, three South Florida newspapers quoted unidentified sources saying Williams tested positive for marijuana and faced a fine of at least $650,000 for violating the substance-abuse policy for the second time since joining the Dolphins in 2002.

He told the Herald for Thursday's story that he already decided to quit football before that second positive test. He appealed that fine, but received word last week that his appeal had been denied, the Herald reported.

While the appeal was pending, Williams said, he continued smoking marijuana during a trip to Europe and failed a third test upon his return.

He said he had been using a masking agent to cleanse his system while being randomly tested for two seasons but he didn't do that before the last test.

Williams first failed a drug test soon after arriving in Miami in 2002, the Herald reported. He spent much of his two seasons with the Dolphins in the league's drug program, seeing a therapist weekly and taking eight to 10 random urine tests a month, the story said.

Williams suffers from social-anxiety disorder and was a spokesman for the anti-depressant Paxil. He said marijuana helped him once he had to stop using Paxil because it didn't agree with his diet.

The former Heisman Trophy winner played three seasons for New Orleans and considered retirement while with the Saints, coach Jim Haslett said.

"In 2001, Ricky came in my office and told me he was going to retire and play baseball," Haslett said. "I don't know if we talked him out of it. We told him he wasn't a very good baseball player - maybe that did it."

Williams didn't blossom until he was dealt to the Dolphins in 2002 for two first-round draft picks.

At times, Miami's biggest trade since 1970 looked like a steal. Williams led the NFL in 2002 with 1,853 yards rushing and broke nine team records. Last season he ran for 1,372 yards despite little offensive support.

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Old Jul 30th, 2004, 10:21 AM       
While I do think he's addicted, the only way pot was enhancing his performance is if there was a giant Hershey bar in the endzone.
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Old Jul 30th, 2004, 12:45 PM       
Pot isn't addictive
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Old Jul 30th, 2004, 02:29 PM       
Hershey bars are.....
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Old Jul 30th, 2004, 02:51 PM       
Every person that I know who smokes pot regularly is a fucking retard.

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Old Jul 30th, 2004, 07:54 PM       
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Pot isn't addictive
Its not? Strange, I know lots of people who have messed up their lives just to get the next joint.

It is addictive, no matter what the your highschool legalization club says.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 12:04 AM       
Its not chemically addictive like ciggaretes but its Mentally addictive. or Habitual.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 03:25 AM       
psychologically addictive
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 04:19 AM       
Every one i know who gets "addicted" to pot we destined for failure one way or the other. I am a regular pot user but still find time to go to school, have a job, and deal with friends and family. I absolutly despise those people who use pot as a way to get through the day. Fuck them and their shitty lives.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 11:38 AM       
Rag on pot all you want, but you have to agree it is the drug that never killed anyone...

despite what these dumass drug free america commercials try to tell you.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 11:44 AM       
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Rag on pot all you want, but you have to agree it is the drug that never killed anyone...

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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 11:56 AM       
I'm not a frequent marijuana user but I will concede that alcohol, a legal drug, kills far more people a year than marijuana ever will and, from my experience, alcohol seems to change people's temperment toward violent behavior.

One last question: While I understand the need for the Dolphins to test for performance-enhancing drugs, what basis do they have in testing for marijuana?
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 12:52 PM       
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what basis do they have in testing for marijuana?
I'm not sure, but so many tests have been conducted since the 50's in many universities. To this date there is no conclusive evidence that it causes any real serious health problems. But still somehow the government thinks it still needs "testing", eventhough alcohol and tobacco products have proven themselves to be some of the biggest killers today.

Edit - I also think its funny how other countries like canada/england/rest of the world are going towards decriminalizing the use of the drug, but somehow our administration finds logic in strengthening our laws and wasting countless amounts of taxpayers money to "The drug War".
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 12:57 PM       
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Rag on pot all you want, but you have to agree it is the drug that never killed anyone...

despite what these dumass drug free america commercials try to tell you.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 01:00 PM       
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 01:10 PM       
Using pot still makes you retarded.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 01:12 PM       
Pot was invented by Frito-lay.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 02:21 PM       
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Using pot still makes you retarded.
Tell that to my sister who smoked pot all the way through highschool, but somehow aced here ACT's and got excepted into Johns Hopkins and MIT.

But even if you do believe that, which I do think its not really good for the mind(I wouldn't go as far is to say it makes you retarded), thats still nothing compared to what prolonged use of alcohol and tobacco does.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 03:17 PM       
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 04:24 PM       
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Tell that to my sister who smoked pot all the way through highschool, but somehow aced here ACT's and got excepted into Johns Hopkins and MIT.
Bobo, I am going to direct you to my previous post. Pot destroys your wisdom score, not your intelligence.

There's a guy who was in my software engineering group this past semester. He smokes pot all the time. All talks about is how he wants to go home and smoke a bowl because he's so bored at school. He gets straight A's. We had to explain our system architecture every goddamn day because he'd forget some of it due to the fact that he got blitzed the night before and didn't care about ironing out some details.

You can't have a decent conversation with him because he gets bored, and gets confused by the simplest concepts. I spent a few hours last week explaining what a bounded buffer was to him.

"Blah blah blah. Read the notes, because there's a good diagram of this in there," I said.
"I don't need to read the notes, I understand this now," he said.
*two minutes later*
"Um, could you explain that to me again? I'm bored. This assignment is stupid. I don't want to think about it anymore."
*two minutes later*
"Hey, I just thought of this: why don't we use this <insert complicated data structure here>?"

In high school, I knew guys in graphic arts who were amazing designers, but they all dropped out because school was soooo booooorring.

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But even if you do believe that, which I do think its not really good for the mind(I wouldn't go as far is to say it makes you retarded), thats still nothing compared to what prolonged use of alcohol and tobacco does.
Do you see me arguing for excessive tobacco and alcohol consumption? Even then, tobacco and alcohol destroy your body, not your mind.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 06:56 PM       
alcohol does destroy your mind

pot makes you lazy, for the most part. hence ricky williams quitting football. who wants to run around in the summer heat after smoking a fatty?
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 07:03 PM       
If he's made enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his life, and he didn't play the game b/c he loved it - Good Riddance.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 07:58 PM       
i find that if you care so much about your beloved drug and cant live without debating its importance/side effects, then you are a reliant which means you can fuck off and die.

any idiot knows everything has side effects.

shit smoking wasnt seen as bad for you since the 60s and people have been doing it for centuries.
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Old Jul 31st, 2004, 07:59 PM       
Smoking stuff makes you go on vision quests.
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Old Aug 1st, 2004, 10:07 AM       
Chimp, you know nothing. The reason all of the people that you know that smoke pot are retarded, was because they were retarded to begin with and that's why the succumbed to using drugs every day. Pot, like all other substances, should be used in moderation (say once or twice a week), merely because they do affect behaviour whilst under the influence. When you are actually high you do become a bit stupid, and you're more interested in snacking and watching comedy than homework. But it's someone's choice, it's not some long term damage caused by pot. It's short term. If your retarded cohort could sober up for a day he'd probably be fine.

"Do you see me arguing for excessive tobacco and alcohol consumption? Even then, tobacco and alcohol destroy your body, not your mind."

Alcohol doesn't destroy your mind!? Rethink that. As everyone knows, alcohol actually destroys brain-cells, something, I think, pot does not.
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