Fat Kids........

[RaNkeri]

and fluoroapatite in teeth

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by RaNkeri

Sodium fluoride has medical value

it is not poisonous if not taken in great amounts

No,

It's still poisonous and it still causes harm in any amounts and there is no way of measuring your intake, especially if its added to drinking water.

It's coded as 6.1 Poison.

Calcium Suppliments are not coded 6.1, they aren't hazardous.

Sodium fluoride is, Poisons are not medicine.

If you want to dispose of Sodium Fluoride you have to call up a Hazardous Material disposal service and actually pay large amounts of money to have them cart it away.

[RaNkeri]

there is about 0,5-1 mg of sodium fluoride in a litre of water. For a person who weighs 70 kg harmful dose of sodium fluoride would be 5-10 g in a day. That means you'd have to drink ludicrous amounts of water. You'd die of water intoxication before getting fluoride poisoning.

[Tadao]

BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE CONSEQUENCES, SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES IT BAD!

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by RaNkeri

there is about 0,5-1 mg of sodium fluoride in a litre of water. For a person who weighs 70 kg harmful dose of sodium fluoride would be 5-10 g in a day. That means you'd have to drink ludicrous amounts of water. You'd die of water intoxication before getting fluoride poisoning.

So what you're saying is that a poison is no long a poison anymore because its in low amounts? How does it stop being a poison and turn into a medicine through dilution? Because poisons usually stay poisons. Also, What about the cumulative effects over many years?

Composition/Information on Ingredients

Ingredient CAS No Percent Hazardous --------- Sodium Fluoride 7681-49-4 100% Yes

3. Hazards Identification

Emergency Overview

--------------------------

DANGER! MAY BE FATAL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED. AFFECTS RESPIRATORY SYSTEM, HEART, SKELETON, CIRCULATORY SYSTEM, CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND KIDNEYS. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. IRRITATION EFFECTS MAY BE DELAYED.

....

Health Rating: 3 - Severe (Poison)

....

Proper Shipping Name: SODIUM FLUORIDE, SOLID

Hazard Class: 6.1

UN/NA: UN1690

Packing Group: III

Information reported for product/size: 250LB

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/S3722.htm

And you can call up that number on the Material Safety Data Sheet and ask them if that should be added to drinking water.

[RaNkeri]

With your logic anything can be poison. Medicines, vitamins, NaCl, water, zinc, copper, iron....


It feels like I'm having a conversation with a 5-year-old

[Colonel Flagg]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

The human body doesn't need Sodium fluoride to function properly. It's actually the opposite, it doesn't function properly WITH sodium fluoride because its a poison and affects the nervous system, skeletal structure, and numerous other organs systems.

just type in MSDS sodium fluoride.

<sigh>

I was citing an example (as many others have as well) that certain chemicals are beneficial in small doses, yet toxic in large doses. Hell, Vitamin A can kill you - just ask anyone who's eaten fugu.

Read this part very carefully:

Sodium fluoride, in appropriately small doses, has been clinically proven to reduce the incidence of tooth decay without harmful side effects.

Don't believe me? Fine, buy, read and understand a biochemistry textbook, or ask a dentist.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I can't disprove the fluoride deception documentary. Free on google video.

You get what you pay for.

Don't be a sheep. Please. Think for yourself, make your own arguments and opinions, and don't parrot those of internet bloggers.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

Don't believe me? Fine, buy, read and understand a biochemistry textbook, or ask a dentist.

Still looks like a poison to me. I don't use it. Haven't had a cavity in years.

I just want to know when did Poisons get lumped into the same category of Vitamins and Prescription Drugs?

I don't see people selling mercury or lead suppliments?

[Tadao]

You guys really feel that proving an idiot wrong on the same point 6 times an hour is better than what we had before he showed up?

Wow.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Tadao

You guys really feel that proving an idiot wrong on the same point 6 times an hour is better than what we had before he showed up?

Wow.

I don't see any proof that its not a poison. All the people in here keep saying is that if you dilute a poison and feed it to people then its not a poison anymore.

[The Leader]

It's fun and it makes us feel good about ourselves.

[Tadao]

Kinda like how if you get bit by a rattlesnake, it's better to not take the antidote.

[The Leader]

Everything we ingest is poison by your logic.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

It's fun and it makes us feel good about ourselves.

Ok.

Going back into the video game forum now. I'll come back later when you guys have finished watching the Fluoride Deception.

..free on google video!

[The Leader]

Yes, because everyone is as mindless and poorly educated as you and can be swayed by a movie on google video.

[Colonel Flagg]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I just want to know when did Poisons get lumped into the same category of Vitamins and Prescription Drugs?

Didn't I just say that Vitamin A will kill you - in a high enough concentration it's a neurotoxin. Does that qualify as a poison?

STOP TAKING VITAMIN A IT'S A POISON. DON'T EAT CARROTS!

[RaNkeri]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I don't see any proof that its not a poison.

Reasonable amounts of it won't kill us
It has medical value
We have it in water, yet people aren't dying from fluoride poisoning


I'm done, this is getting retarded

[Dimnos]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

So what you're saying is that a poison is no long a poison anymore because its in low amounts?

Arsenic, cyanide, chemotherapy and just about any muscle relaxer.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

Didn't I just say that Vitamin A will kill you - in a high enough concentration it's a neurotoxin. Does that qualify as a poison?

STOP TAKING VITAMIN A IT'S A POISON. DON'T EAT CARROTS!

Vitamin A is not classified as a poison. It's not an industrial waste product and is not added to your water supply.

Originally Posted by RaNkeri

Reasonable amounts of it won't kill us
It has medical value
We have it in water, yet people aren't dying from fluoride poisoning


I'm done, this is getting retarded

Reasonable amounts? How about none. I don't want any. Is that reasonable enough for you?

If you want to ingest a well know poison fine. If you want to be publically medicated against your will fine. But I'm not taking this stuff. It's a poison. It makes people sick. It has no medicinal value. Sodium Fluoride is an industrial waste product.

Read the MSDS ^

[Esuohlim]

And don't even think about drinking a beer

[Tadao]

Originally Posted by The Leader

It's fun and it makes us feel good about ourselves.

He has a blog you can go to. JUST SAYING.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Esuohlim

And don't even think about drinking a beer

Do they add beer to the water supply? Do you brush your teeth everyday with beer?

[Dimnos]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Still looks like a poison to me. I don't use it. Haven't had a cavity in years.

What do you clean your teeth with then?

[Tadao]

IT'S NOT LIKE ANYONE HERE THINKS YOU'RE SMART CAUSE YOU PROOVED A POINT AGAINST COOLIE.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Dimnos

What do you clean your teeth with then?

I brush my teeth with a non-fluoride brand of toothpaste that doesn't say "POISON: IF INGESTED CALL POISON CONTROL" on the tube, and my teeth are fine.