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Old Apr 28th, 2006, 04:19 PM       
No, but he will yell at you for not agreeing with him, and he will tell you why you're not understanding him. And then he will talk about the welfare state and "economy".
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Old Apr 28th, 2006, 04:46 PM       
Then he'll piss his panties and sell them on ebay for 15 dollars. NET PROFIT FOR PREECHR. We all know who the real winner is here, maybe we should just stop being jealous. Trickle-down effect indeed!
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 12:43 AM       
Nevermind. I give up. You guys are hopeless.

You already know what I'm gonna say, and I already know every pathetic, illogical argument any of you might throw my way in rebuttal.

Well, 'cept for max. He can still be surprising.

Sorry for butting into your perfectly rational discussion.

If you actually ever need to understand something, feel free to ask. I'll just be over there in the corner eating pudding.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 03:18 AM       
Or, what khal and I said.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 03:30 AM       
I had a libertarian friend once spout out ex nihilo what bullshit it is that grocery stores put up signs saying "Please return carts to designated areas in the interest of keeping prices low". While that statement is certain to spark hot arguments on its actual plausibility, you can't really deny that the idea is grounded in reality, and you can't really argue that two extra minutes in the day's work of a minimum wage employee is going to jack the price of canned tomatoes to absurdity.

What did strike me was the fact that he was bitching about an exaggeration which his platform would praise as perfectly legitimate exercise in the free market system.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 03:35 AM       
Why don't you say what you were going to say, Preechr? If you said everything you were going to say and stopped having intermitions in between thoughts like some kind of pedantic ego-worshipper waiting for people to have the same noble thoughts about you that you have for yourself, we might actually get somewhere in our conversations.
Just because we aren't kissing your ass doesn't mean we aren't listening and waiting for any bits of knowledge we might pick up. Personally, even when I'm arguing with someone I still try to learn from them. That's what is interesting about arguing, I think, exposure to new knowledge.

Seriously, please tell us why gas prices being raised have no effect on the economy. Will you please Mr. Preechr man?
And like I said just give it all to us now without those intermitions you usually do that way our illogical arguments can't get in the way of your reasoning.

you know I was going to edit and delete this reply just because it's too much, so if the above reply doesn't satisfy just replace it with a ' what's this guy thinking? '
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 04:33 PM       
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Preech, can you let me know if you're going to say anything that would talk me out of thinking anyone with more than a Billion dollars should be dragged out of their palace and ground up into pet food?
Bill Gates seems to help alot of people in poorer countries which vaccinations and such. I'd say he is a very charitable person.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 05:32 PM       
True, but you can't download a tank of gas off of a warez site.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 05:35 PM       
Yeah but you can steal it easy enough from another vechicle if you are determined.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 07:26 PM       
But again, there's no risk of poisoning involved when you download Windows. Unless you buy into that myth about Gates keeping ninjas on the payroll.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 09:01 PM       
You guys know that when rich people give donations and are 'charitable' they get tax breaks, right?
Compare how much these people gave as charity to how much money they make/spent on shit no person alive could possible need, then we'll talk.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 10:32 PM       
The only group that bears the burden of the rising cost of gas is the end consumer.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006, 11:24 PM       
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Old May 1st, 2006, 09:23 AM       
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But again, there's no risk of poisoning involved when you download Windows.
[Linuxgeek] Cuz Windows is the poison[/Linuxgeek]

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Unless you buy into that myth about Gates keeping ninjas on the payroll.
People are idiots. Those are samurai.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 10:32 AM       
A.) I did not intend to start of round of Preechr bashing. I like him.

B.) I'm still curious about my dogfood question.

C.) Rich people who give lots of money to poor people are certainly better than rich people who don't. Rich people who don't are first in the dogfood line of my mind. BUT until you give away all the money you make beyond what keeps you and your family reasonably comfortable and ensures the generation of future funds to secure the same, You're still on the line. How many houses can you live in at once? How many cars can your drive, or boats, or planes? You get my drift.

D.) I'm not arguing for a dictatorship to enforce my personl beliefs. I'm just saying what they are. I'm not even suggesting a system for enforcing them at all. I just think if you have more money than you even know what to do with, you should give it all away until you have only enoough money left that you can think of non ludicrous things to do with. AND IT'S MY RIGHT TO THINK THAT FUCKERS!

E.) Oh, and Preech should be excommunicated for being arrogant and thinking he knows more than other people on I-mockery.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 10:45 AM       
Rich people will continue to become richer because they rent out their money and property to others.

A lot of Americans rent property and take out loans and have to work hard to pay them off. In the end, all their work gets them nothing. The material goods they acquire devalue too quickly.

That is how the rich stay far above the middle and lower class, and it is how they will stay there.

However, it won't last forever (in the US). The dollar is weakening.

All forms of economy will fail eventually. People are naturally greedy (whether it be for power or money) and will always find a way to exploit the system. Some forms of economy (capitalism) may last longer than others (communism).

The best form of economy is the one that recovers quickly from failures (depressions).
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Old May 1st, 2006, 10:55 AM       
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C.) Rich people who give lots of money to poor people are certainly better than rich people who don't. Rich people who don't are first in the dogfood line of my mind. BUT until you give away all the money you make beyond what keeps you and your family reasonably comfortable and ensures the generation of future funds to secure the same, You're still on the line. How many houses can you live in at once? How many cars can your drive, or boats, or planes? You get my drift.
So, all of your money goes just to the essentials? And what is reasonably comfortable?
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Old May 1st, 2006, 11:25 AM       
i keep looking for the word "essential" in that quote, but i'm just not seeing it.

you bring up a good point that "reasonably comfortable" is a very relative description, tho.
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Old May 1st, 2006, 12:02 PM       
That is the rub.

I guess I'm the arbitor of that.

I'm kidding of course.

No, it has to be self determined, of course it does. But I defy anyone to tell me they can actually feel any sort of life style difference between being a Billionaire and a multi billionaire.

I would say when you reach a point where you cannot even experience accrued wealth, you really ought to be spending down until you can. That's sort of my minimum idea of a bar.

After that, I feel like it's just about taking stock of your situation. If you have more cars than family members, is that good? If you own several really large houses, should you?

I don't even disbelieve in wealth. It gives you something to strive for. But the Uber Wealth we see today, strikes me, personally as immoral.

I'm aware it's all a game of comparisons. I know my level of wealth is Uber wealth to street orphan in Calcutta. But I think that means I also should give some thought to what my needs and reasonable luxuries really constitute, not that people with vast tracks of land and gold plumbing fixtures shouldn't.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 12:21 AM       
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Preech, can you let me know if you're going to say anything that would talk me out of thinking anyone with more than a Billion dollars should be dragged out of their palace and ground up into pet food?
Not any more, I guess.

Personally, I blame Kahl and Kev.

I don't think I could possibly be more arrogant while knowing more than other people, here and most places.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 02:12 AM       
I've had little kids use that type of attitude on me before, but I'll try to refrain from talking to you or insulting you any further as long as you promise quality posts and no more complaining.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 07:54 AM       
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A.) I did not intend to start of round of Preechr bashing. I like him.

B.) I'm still curious about my dogfood question.

C.) Rich people who give lots of money to poor people are certainly better than rich people who don't. Rich people who don't are first in the dogfood line of my mind. BUT until you give away all the money you make beyond what keeps you and your family reasonably comfortable and ensures the generation of future funds to secure the same, You're still on the line. How many houses can you live in at once? How many cars can your drive, or boats, or planes? You get my drift.

D.) I'm not arguing for a dictatorship to enforce my personl beliefs. I'm just saying what they are. I'm not even suggesting a system for enforcing them at all. I just think if you have more money than you even know what to do with, you should give it all away until you have only enoough money left that you can think of non ludicrous things to do with. AND IT'S MY RIGHT TO THINK THAT FUCKERS!

E.) Oh, and Preech should be excommunicated for being arrogant and thinking he knows more than other people on I-mockery.
He does more than other people on I-mockery, althought that isn't saying much.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 09:43 AM       
What does "doing stuff" on I-mockery consist of anyway?

Preechr, you can't handle serious discussion. I can't speak for kahl, because I frankly haven't read every single exchange between you guys. But the pattern I've seen over and over again is you getting confronted, you getting defensive, and you claiming victory. I'm not saying it isn't amusing, but please, drop the boohoo attitude.

If you'd like to take up the discussion on McCain (but more so the agenda of the GOP) again that'd be fine. Maybe you can learn me in fewer words this time .
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 10:13 AM       
If at any point either of you would like to spend as much time as I have attempting to explain your points of view on McCain, the GOP, evolution, or whatever else, please feel free to do so. "Nuh-UH!" isn't a valid argument. You have to explain why you disagree. Insulting your opponent, while fun, is not a point of discussion in and of itself... Neither is making fun of someone else's point.

The pattern I have shown is that of making a point, having it ignored, then making it again, and again, and again... till I get sick of the pointlessness (on both of your sides) of such an exchange.

Then, the pattern you both seem to have adopted is basically, after ignoring whatever it is I've tried to explain to you for three pages of posts, you say "Oh, I understand exactly what your point is, but you're a stupid stupid head. Haha! Neener neener!"

I couldn't possibly claim victory in any of these "discussions." They never went anywhere. I've gotten further talking to my dog.

As I said, please feel free to make any points on anything you wish, but don't expect me to respond automatically. If you do a good job, and I find that your post is interesting and well- thought-out, I might try once again to discuss it with you. That's mostly directed at Kevin, since I have no hope left for Kahljorn at all...
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 10:31 AM       
I just want to chime in and say I think "Nuh-Uh." is the ONLY valid form of argument. Oh, and slap fights. And cat fights if it's two chicks.

Rrrrrrrr.

This is the internets. For all I know you are all chicks. And you look like whatever I want you to look like in my head.

Rrrrrrrr.
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