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executioneer · #**126**

you fucking cock

Shifty · #**127**

I understand how you guys thinkin me as a bad parent can come through. thats not what really bothers me. its why glowbelly seems to think that she has a right to bitch me out. But i guess it is i-mock, since your supposed to mock the fellow posters.

Immortal Goat · #**128**

She has the right to bitch you out because:

1: I-Mockery

2: She IS a parent, and her parental, let alone her human, instincts kick in when she sees a situation where a child can/will be done irreparable damage.

3: You're a cunt.

Shifty · #**129**

yes cuz she can see that im going to harm my son...i can see how she can see that.

Immortal Goat · #**130**

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Originally Posted by Shifty

yes cuz she can see that im going to harm my son...i can see how she can see that.

Don't spoil the ending for me, please. I'm waiting for the Lifetime special.

maggiekarp · #**131**

A girl I ate lunch with last year had her baby this summer, he's so cute :D

I told my brother about it and he said that happened a lot at the alternative school, kids brought in their babies to show off to the class.

To say that a child would be automatically fucked up if raised by teen parents is like saying single-parent kids will be fucked up

Immortal Goat · #**132**

Not all teen-parent kids will be fucked up, but Shifty sure is showing promise here. Way to live up to the steryotype!

Shifty · #**133**

Best way to figure out if ill be a good parent is to actually know me other than base opinions on 190 posts...

Immortal Goat · #**134**

191 and counting

Shifty · #**135**

yes it is.

:O i know an idea, ill post what im willing to do to make you guys change ur minds..../sarcasm

glowbelly · #**136**

that would have been a lot better of a joke if you would have stuck with the whole "not" thing

see? see why you fail as a parent?

Shifty · #**137**

Nope i dont. i really dont. i fail to see how being at her house every day, changing him, and more or less being there for them is being a bad parents. Tell me how the fuck am i a bad parent. even tho my child isnt even a month old.

kahljorn · #**138**

because parenting isn't about just changing diapers and feeding food but also about sharing wisdom with them so that as they grow they will be responsible and mature and be capable of making good decisions for their age, you literally shape their personality and what the rest of their life will be like. basically, you're trying to make someone everything you're not and everything you didn't have. I'm pretty sure that's the goal of any good parent, there's two inherent problems here though 1: your parents are going to help raise the child 2: you have no inherent wisdom or lifeknowledge by which to raise them. Your child will be raised to be just as confused about life as you are.

Immortal Goat · #**139**

Even more so, since (presumably) his father is young enough to be his brother.

AChimp · #**140**

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you have no inherent wisdom or lifeknowledge by which to raise them. Your child will be raised to be just as confused about life as you are.

See, Shifty? This is the NUMBER ONE REASON as to why you will be a bad parent.

You haven't done anything with your life. You're not even finished school. You don't even know if you really like this girl enough to spend the next few decades with her. Teenage relationships are meaningless, and if you were older you'd know that. You have NO experience whatsoever with anything.

And guess what? You'll be too busy changing diapers to do anything with your life for the forseeable future, and when the time comes that you might be able to accomplish something else, you'll be too accustomed to doing nothing and THAT is what your kid will learn.

maggiekarp · #**141**

After all this bitching and moaning, what sort of solution do you guys propose? He leave the kid in the dumpster? Give it to a foster home?

He could let his folks raise it, sure, but that might screw the kid up more to learn his brother is his daddy than to have really young parents. And in the end, we don't know how the kid is gonna turn out! You can raise two children the same way and they can be completely different because of their personalities.

No one is completely prepared for parenthood. No adult has every bit of knowledge a child need to become a well-rounded, happy human. SOCIETY, folks. School? But everyone who has a baby, no matter the age or the background, has to do their best and raise the child as they see fit.

As a baby, all it really needs is love and attention (shelter, diaper changes, clothes). Just about any teen can give that if they try hard enough. And because of the added pressure to "do it right" for being a teen parent, he might do better than a normal adult.

As the baby grows, Shifty will no doubt grow, too. You guys seem to think he'll be a teen forever.

I can't say how the relationship between Shifty and the baby mommy will turn out. Lots of teen relationships are meaningless, sure, but there are tons of long-lasting, happy marriages that are between highschool sweethearts. Feh.

Now, show me the asshole who ISN'T confused by life

Shifty · #**142**

Do you guys know any teen parents or atleast where teen parents? They have closer relationships than most older parents do. What would you like to be a better friend when ur younger 20-30 year old or 30-40 year old?

Ok i now understand what you guys are saying. and just like maggiekarp said you guys just gonna sit here and bitch me out and not atleast give me some help to raise it right?

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Originally Posted by Immortal Goat

Even more so, since (presumably) his father is young enough to be his brother.

my dad is 51.

Pub Lover · #**143**

He's talking about you and your kid. You could be siblings.

Shifty · #**144**

probally not, brother thats 17 years older? think not.

Pub Lover · #**145**

That's your problem, lack of thinking. It is common for that sort of thing to happen.

Immortal Goat · #**146**

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Originally Posted by Shifty

Do you guys know any teen parents or atleast where teen parents? They have closer relationships than most older parents do. What would you like to be a better friend when ur younger 20-30 year old or 30-40 year old? .

Kids don't need a fucking friend, they have those in school. They need a parent. It's THAT mentality that fucks kids up more than anything else. You can never take a friend as seriously as you can a parent. Learn this now, or your kid will suck more than you do.

kahljorn · #**147**

"what sort of solution do you guys propose?"

The solution where he develops good parenting skills and his kid doesn't end up being a little jerk, I guess :O

"You can raise two children the same way and they can be completely different because of their personalities. "

It has nothing to do with their personalities(I'm assuming yo u're talking about the babies "Personality"), personalities are formed around interaction with the family and enviroment, although there may be a few "individual" factors. It's also literally impossible to raise two children exactly the same way unless they are twins and born at the same time.

"He could let his folks raise it, sure, but that might screw the kid up more to learn his brother is his daddy than to have really young parents."

I don't really think it matters so much who his parents are but the type of enviroment his family creates, together, and the type of interaction the family has with the baby.

"As the baby grows, Shifty will no doubt grow, too. You guys seem to think he'll be a teen forever. "

Growing up doesn't grant maturity nor parenting skills :O

"Now, show me the asshole who ISN'T confused by life "

I'm not confused by life but I think showing you my asshole in this thread would be inappropriate :O

kahljorn · #**148**

"Kids don't need a fucking friend, they have those in school. They need a parent. It's THAT mentality that fucks kids up more than anything else. You can never take a friend as seriously as you can a parent. Learn this now, or your kid will suck more than you do."

True that, the ghettoist whitetrashist family I've ever known has a mother that's best friends with them and doesn't believe in spanking them, even when they don't clean their room for a year and their room is disgustingly filfthy. including half eatten rotting melons and litter boxes that were never cleaned and thusly shit was covered with clothes. Oh and their beds were coated in sugar, and all of the silverware was in their bedroom.

BEST FRIENDS!

Shifty · #**149**

Be friends with the kid. so that he tells you stuff, have an open relationship. be trusting of eachother. but still put your foot down when you half to. Dont bitch the kid out for screwing up, try to level with them and then if they do it again, bitch the kid out. Try to understand why there doing the things there doing instead of forcing punishment on them. thats the kind of parenting i would probally do. not the fucking way my parents raised my brother.