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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 11:18 AM        COUNTDOWN TO WAR
Commercial airlines are being pressed into military service to transport troops as the Pentagon continues its Persian Gulf buildup for a possible war in Iraq.

This has only happened once before. Right before Desert Storm.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 11:20 AM       
Yeah, and tv networks are worried about losing money on advertising in the event of war.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 11:26 AM       
Economic impact is economic impact.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 11:50 AM       
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 01:07 PM       
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 02:00 PM       
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 03:43 PM       
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 03:57 PM       
I've been taking my daughter to all the county fairs but she is unfortunately not talented enough to get her band "Glow" off the ground, though we try and blame it on her fat friend.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 04:18 PM       
My father is in Iraq right now for journalism-related reasons. If you kill my father I'm gonna be pretty upset, and not even Jerseyboy like beatdowns aren't going to help.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 05:59 PM       
twenty bucks says we're not going to war

we simply can't afford it unless we get more allies in the game to foot the bill.

yea it looks bad, but im still thinking its not going to happen.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 06:07 PM       
i'll take that bet. :/
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 06:37 PM       
helm, i honestly hope nothing bad happens to your father.

as for the rest of you, as far as money goes, a nice war does wonders for the economy. the government has to spend all that money they rape us for. people get good jobs doing all sorts of stuff. the airlines make money off the wartime use (i believe the government has to actually pay two or three times what just chartering the flights would be worth).

ww1 dumped money into this country
ww2 same
vietnam same
gulf war, a whole lot of the same

we will profit off this war.

not to mention all the oil we get from the new 51st state.
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Old Feb 10th, 2003, 06:49 PM       
The Good Guys never die in war anymore, especially when we just fire missiles from a thousand miles away, so I don't see why they bother showing families all snivelling and crying over the fact that Daddy is going away to fight for six months. It's not like he's ever going to have to face any Iraqis one-on-one.

If anything, they should be pissed off that Daddy gets to go on vacation on big cruise ships complete with almost every luxury, including full court gyms and a McDonalds.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 07:22 AM       
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 09:33 AM       
Ranxer; I disagree strongly, not for any reason of logic. I think Bush is personlly committed to this war and it's going to happen come hell or high water. The only thing that has any chance of stopping it is Saddam going into exile or getting killed.

I think it goes beyond 'security', and I think the left's idea that it's about oil and control miss the point as well. A lot of Bush the elder's foreign policy boiled down to his irritation at what was called the 'wimp' factor. Speedboating in high seas, 'prk rinds' and going to war with Iraq were part and parcell of his life long struggle to be seen as a 'man'.

Simmilarly, deep in his gut, our current Bush suffers with having been seen as the family dolt his whole life. He was never taken seriously by his father, Jeb was the one being groomed for political dynasty. Now Bush Jr. is President and he's damn well going to finish what Daddy started and show him good by outmaning him.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 09:34 AM       
just wait until we invade canada. all we will need is a shitload of labatts and some pumpkins.

it sure will save us some money on all those missiles we had to build to keep your country safe.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 09:37 AM       
war is good for the economy Invest Your Children!

im talking about the COST of the war, you know they have to fill the tanks with jeeps and pay for the missles right? for example Gulf war 1 cost around $61 Billion, i dont know how much we made on the deal, but we only paid about 1/3 of the cost ourselves, the rest came from gw1 "supporters" without which the war would not have happened.

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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 09:46 AM       
ok, here is where you are getting fuzzy about weapons procurement.

everything we use in this war is already paid for. some of it is older than most of the people who frequent these boards. the 61 billion price tag is for replacement parts.

and for service related items, such as food, fuel, lodging. all of which dump shitloads of money into the economy.

and in case you are blind and stupid, the whole US economy is nothing but pure consuming. the more we consume the better the economy. the more the government blows on weapons and such, the more the economy grows.

we can more than afford it cause the spending will just create more money in the tax base.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 10:07 AM       
i can agree with most of that but it still costs to move a destroyer or fire a missle, or replace the parts.. the 61billion didnt exactly pay us back directly, no matter how you break it down.

and i'm talking about issues that arent going to be in the news.. this is info that they don't want us to know about..(i havnt seen ANYONE bring these issues up anywhere) your welcome to call me whatever but without help paying for the war we cant afford it.

Granted our government will sieze plenty of oil(illegally) to offset the cost, but that's only after a move on iraq And it's a gamble that we could recoup some of our losses. If the war doesnt go well.. ie the iraqis kill more americans than our freindly fire, or a nuke is dropped(oh man i hope not!!) it could cost alot more than 61billion. IF we go to war i really hope it goes better than gw1 but i don't think it will.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 10:14 AM       
i can not begin to tell you how much i do not want this war to happen.

aside from all my moral concerns, i have family members who would be put into the machine. also, i really think that liberating a people who obviously have not tried to liberate theirselves is a very bad idea.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 11:43 AM       
I bet we go in to Iraq one week from today.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 11:48 AM       
i always find it odd that i agree with you, even when we are coming at the same idea from different directions.
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Old Feb 11th, 2003, 01:16 PM       
Yeah, I just came back from lunch.


GET IT?!

See, Sadie started counting down to war (as the thread title commanded), proto joined in, and then I made a joke about Proto's number being confused with the past tense of 'eat', which is ridiculous, becuase that mistake can only be made when you only hear someone say 8, not when you read it.

What's really funny is that lot of people are going to die soon, the world will be plunged into chaos and I have two children for whom the future looks bleak at best and yet I still find the spunk to make a useless joke based on the way words can sometimes sound the same as a word with a totally different meaning.

THAT's COMEDY!!!
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