Guinea Pig, Flowers of Flesh and Blood

[liquidstatik]

Has anyone seen this, and is it as gross as i hear?

[Pub Lover]

Looks good. Got any other info, Jackass?

[liquidstatik]

PANTIES IN A KNOT, PUB?

[liquidstatik]

The Guinea Pig films (from the Japanese "giniipiggu") are a series of 1980s Japanese horror films with extremely detailed special effects. According to Snopes, the films became infamous when Charlie Sheen mistook one for a snuff film and contacted the FBI to report it.[1] The tapes gained notoriety in the late 1980s and early 1990s when the first five films of the series were found showcased in the 5,763 videotape collection of Japanese serial killer Tsutomu Miyazaki, who re-enacted scenes from the films as a part of his crimes.

[liquidstatik]

Dude cuts up some b*tch, is all I get from reading plot outlines

[Pub Lover]

Sounds good.

[J. Tithonus Pednaud]

I've seen them. It is a series. First one is super realistic from what I recall. Also, the first one actually caused a big stir in the states when Charlie Sheen saw it and thought it was a real snuff film. The FBI got involved.

It was marketed as a 'is it real or not' in Japan. People were concerned and the makers were forced to make a follow up showing the actress who was 'murdered'.

This was talked about at length here before.

It's mindless gore and I'm not a fan of that genre of horror in the slightest. But, you can see clips and learn more in the documentary Snuff:Does it Exist. It's free on Google video.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=0

[liquidstatik]

aha, i was watching that last night[Snuff: Does it Exist], s'where i heard about it. ;O

[Kitsa]

I've seen this one, although I'm having a hard time finding "He Never Dies!" (heard it was funny) and skipped "Devil Doctor Woman" (looked dumb).

I thought the violence toward animals was a bit gratuitous, and obviously no one seems to care when a chicken is snuffed (if "Ebola Syndrome" didn't bring that one home, I don't know what would). That's the only part I found squirmy and bad. The rest just seemed like a silly, bizarre fetish video. Even the way they filmed it looked like porn.

Have you seen "Red Room"? Now that one was funny.

[Dr. Octogonopus]

I've never really understood movies that exist just so you watch someone get mutilated. Is it supposed to be some sort of legalized fetish genre? Is it just the way the directors try to scare you? For me, they only made me go OWWWWW, but the silliness of it ruined the rest.

[Kitsa]

For what it's worth, I have no idea how Charlie Sheen could have thought this was a real snuff film. It wasn't a snuff for anyone but that poor chicken. It was way too well-produced to be the "dark, secret, underground" video they were trying to promote it to be. For the production value, think 80s porn. Very unlikely that a real snuff movie would be that well done.

Also, the sound effects were absolutely ridiculous. He pushes a syringe into her and you hear this "pflapppttt" sound like someone stepping on an overripe grapefruit. Everything had a sound effect...."plonk", "pbbbblappttt", etc. It was like a 4th grader standing just off camera making obnoxious fart noises.

Charlie Sheen must have been drunk, or high, or both, or something. I just can't see anyone thinking this movie was the real thing.

[Dr. Octogonopus]

I watched that documentary, and it was interesting, and really disturbing at the same time. Makes me hate my dentist even more. :P
Yeah, I couldn't understand how he thought it was real either. Maybe if you had a microphone under the skin, and injected jello into her, then it could sound like that. But I've never had any sound effects when I got injections.

[J. Tithonus Pednaud]

Back in those days, my understanding is that he didn't see the whole thing...just a few seconds of it in a grainy dub. It was an underground thing...like Star Wars Holiday special.

[Dommin]

No plot, really. Just very disturbing, realistic violence. If that's your thing, then it's good. The first movie was a lot better, though.

[liquidstatik]

i've yet to download this, so i guess i'll just download the first instead. i've heard from lots of places it was better.

[terrva]

As far as exploitation flicks go, i've seen much worse. You should check it out.

[liquidstatik]

you could be cool and list some more

[liquidstatik]

if by worse you meant digusting, not shitty

[Kitsa]

I still say, for general "wtf" value and gross-outs, you can't go wrong with "Ebola Syndrome" or "Red Room".

[terrva]

Liquidstatik: what i meant was that i've seen much more shittier ones. Here's some i did enjoy watching:
Blood Feast, which was mentioned before in some another topic
The Incredible Torture Show, also known as Blood Sucking Freaks
Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom
Ilsa, She Wolf Of The SS
I Spit On Your Grave, also known as Day of the Woman
The Last House on the Left
Cannibal Ferox
Cannibal Holocaust
Violent Shit
Nekromantik, or NEKRomantik
Zombi 2
Contamination
Men Behind the Sun

Also try and find the uncut versions. Cut ones are pretty much worthless.

[liquidstatik]

thanks, i'll try and download 'em somewhere. only one i've seen in that list is cannibal holocaust