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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 04:50 PM        Hey Max! Is this funny?
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 05:50 PM       
I'm not Max, but I think it's pretty dull and not funny at all.
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 05:57 PM       
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 06:01 PM       


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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 07:33 PM       
Mrs. Kerry looks kinda like Dustin Hoffman in drag. :/

My uncle, a liberal, laughed at it, but I showed him the bushorchimp site first, so it was in a more humorous context. :P

Then he had me search for this, a mosaic made of pics of the servicemen who've died in Iraq.

We didn't laugh at that one.
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 08:41 PM       
What about the servicemen who died in WWII? Did you laugh at that?

.....of course not. Why would you? Why is it worth noting that you didn't laugh?
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 08:43 PM       
Because he did laugh at all the other pictures he looked up, dolt.
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 08:46 PM       
That makes no sense.
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Old Jun 15th, 2004, 09:26 PM       
Vince? Is that YOU? Oh, wait, no, sorry, I had you confused with this other right-wing moron. You really are clueless, aren't you Ronnie? Pern was making perfect sense. He was saying that he laughed at all the other pictures because they were supposed to be funny, yet true. However, the Bush mosaic didn't cause him to laugh because he knew the sad truth that those people died, and that it was Bush that practically signed their death warrents. In fact, that is pretty much the only thing he is good at. Sentencing people to death.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 06:38 AM       
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What about the servicemen who died in WWII? Did you laugh at that?

.....of course not. Why would you? Why is it worth noting that you didn't laugh?
You're a fucking moron, Ronnie, if you think this war is similar to WWII in any context. You're a fucking moron anyway, but this drives the point home.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 08:03 AM       
Agreed, that was a ludicrous analogy even by his standards.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 09:53 AM       
So, you can compare Dubya to Hitler, but you can't compare the dead of their respective wars?
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 10:16 AM       
No, you can't compare a war that was fought by an actual alliance of many nations to stop an aggressive, fascist invasionary force with a war (fought by a handful of nations and opposed by many more) that was all about the ownership of and access to oil wells and supposed removal of weapons that werent actually there.

And you can't compare Dubya and Hitler. The majority voted for Hitler.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 10:25 AM       
Nalds, since it's clear from the last time you did this you are not even marginally interested in my analysis of humor, I'm not inclined to play along. I think I gavce you a very fair answer last time around, which I don't think you even replied to. At least when I barb you for effect, I pay attention to what you say (if you say anything). If you're just using my name in a thread title for effect as opposed to coming to me as representing an opinion, don't bother.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 10:49 AM       
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And you can't compare Dubya and Hitler. The majority voted for Hitler.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 11:22 AM       
In that Bush mosaic, a lot of the faces are repeated.

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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 11:28 AM       
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 03:46 PM       
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Hey! Max moves the papers off the stands, kid.

And I still stand by my Nancy Reagan/Joker "separated at birth" theory.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 05:31 PM       
I think it's fair to compare any war to any other war on the grounds they they are both wars, and have at least that in common. Future historians certainly will make these comparisons.

Whether this one goes down as an event that changed history for the better, or as an act of agression based on false pretense and greed, well, I've my suspicions how most non-American historians are gonna write it.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 06:35 PM       
And they would be right, too.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 07:48 PM       
Most people who post here just hate the United States...

I don't care what future historians have to say about it.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 08:19 PM       
That's right, I hate the United States. That is why I was practically in a waking coma during the September eleventh attack. That is why I hope for this country to be pulled out of the gutter that it seems to be sliding in to. That is why I fear for the lives of our servicemen and women over in a country they have no real reason to be in. Because I HATE AMERICA!!!

Ronnie, you are so fucking clueless it isn't even funny. At least Vince provides some comic relief, but YOU really don't get it. It is people like you that make this country seem like a shithole to others, not people like the majority of posters in this thread.
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Old Jun 16th, 2004, 08:37 PM       
See Ronnie, I actually CARE about my country, and that's WHY I hope we are remembered as good and just, and not violent oppressors.

You don't give a FUCK about the United States if you don't care about our legacy.

Your flag waving is a pretense for something this country does NOT stand for, and it is disgusting to anyone who ever thought about what "liberty and justice for all" really means.
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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 02:42 AM       
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You don't give a FUCK about the United States if you don't care about our legacy.
Legacy?

Germany's legacy involved the systematic murder of 6 million Jews.

Russia's legacy involved an oppressive Soviet regime that not only took multitudes of lives in its own borders, but inspired other countries to adopt the same methods.

France's legacy involved Nazi collaboration.

Now you don't look at those three countries as evil to this day, do you? No, you probably agreed with them when they opposed the Iraq war.

Anyway, this war appears stupid and frivolous, and history may remember it as such, but we won't know for sure until we see the real political results. All I'm going to suggest is: this war is a very mild blemish compared to what other nations have done. We could have done a lot worse than knocking over a dictator. It really bothers me that the United States seems to be held to an impossible moral standard while other nations are given incredible amounts of slack. If we're going by the principle of "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," then the major players of the world community have no right to be clucking their tongues at anyone.

That being said, I didn't think the Iraq war was a good idea when it started and I don't think it was a good idea now. I DO, however, get upset when people insist that it was "immoral." Regardless of why it happened or how it was sold, the war was NOT immoral. Good things can be done for bad reasons.

Oh, and I'm not defending Ronnie's "you're not a patriot" shtick, by the way.
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