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Old Aug 4th, 2008, 07:57 AM        white house attempted to pin anthrax attacks on al qaeda
Huh sounds familiar.

I know I know, I can't help myself but there has been a surge of articles based on the anthrax attack scandal revealing all kinds of familiar stuff since the suicide of a suspect last week.

FBI was told to blame Anthrax scare on Al Qaeda by White House officials


Saturday, August 2nd 2008, 6:32 PM

WASHINGTON - In the immediate aftermath of the 2001 anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda , but investigators ruled that out, the Daily News has learned.

After the Oct. 5, 2001, death from anthrax exposure of Sun photo editor Robert Stevens , Mueller was "beaten up" during President Bush's morning intelligence briefings for not producing proof the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden , according to a former aide.

"They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East ," the retired senior FBI official told The News.

On October 15, 2001, President Bush said, "There may be some possible link" to Bin Laden, adding, "I wouldn't put it past him." Vice President Cheney also said Bin Laden's henchmen were trained "how to deploy and use these kinds of substances, so you start to piece it all together."

But by then the FBI already knew anthrax spilling out of letters addressed to media outlets and to a U.S. senator was a military strain of the bioweapon. "Very quickly [ Fort Detrick , Md., experts] told us this was not something some guy in a cave could come up with," the ex-FBI official said. "They couldn't go from box cutters one week to weapons-grade anthrax the next."
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Old Aug 8th, 2008, 03:38 PM       
Anthrax investigation should be investigated, congressmen say
Sen. Charles Grassley and Rep. Rush Holt want hearings into the Justice Department and FBI's handling of the case.
By Josh Meyer, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 8, 2008
WASHINGTON -- After seven long years, the FBI and the Justice Department say they are closing the books on the anthrax investigation.

But the investigation into the investigation is only beginning, and it will focus on what Congress members described Thursday as apparent missteps by authorities that dramatically prolonged the probe, unfairly maligned an innocent government scientist, and raised questions about whether federal agents had conclusively ruled out other suspects besides microbiologist Bruce E. Ivins.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) and Rep. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.), frequent critics of the FBI, demanded a far more detailed release of documents by the bureau and the Justice Department to support the government's case, as well as congressional hearings into the investigation.

Grassley sent a three-page letter Thursday evening to Atty. Gen. Michael B. Mukasey and FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, giving them two weeks to respond to 18 questions that raised concerns about virtually every aspect of the probe.

Holt, who represents the district from which the anthrax-laced letters were mailed, said in an interview that he was reaching out to other House members to discuss a combined inquiry of sorts by the judiciary, intelligence, science and technology, and government oversight committees.

"We don't want this to be another Lee Harvey Oswald case where the public says it is never solved to their satisfaction," said Holt, referring to conspiracy theories surrounding President Kennedy's 1963 assassination. "Somebody needs to finish the job that would have been finished in a court of law."

Other than Congress, he said, "I'm not sure where else to do it."

Ivins, a researcher at the government's biodefense lab at Ft. Detrick, Md., apparently killed himself last week as authorities were preparing to charge him with murder. The 2001 attacks killed five people, sickened at least 17 others, and sparked one of the largest and costliest criminal investigations in U.S. history.

On Wednesday, senior officials in the Justice Department and the FBI gave private briefings to those affected by the attacks and to members of Congress; released a trove of previously sealed documents; and held a news conference, all in an effort to convince the public that they could have proved in court that Ivins was the lone culprit -- if they'd had the chance to charge and prosecute him.

But by Thursday, a chorus of skeptics had taken to talk radio shows and the Internet. They homed in on government admissions that at least 100 other people may have had access to the particular batch of anthrax that was ultimately linked to the deadly mailings, and that Ivins had never been conclusively placed near the mailbox in New Jersey from which the letters were sent. They also questioned why the FBI and the Postal Inspection Service allowed the public to believe that another researcher at Ft. Detrick, Dr. Steven Hatfill, was the sole culprit for more than a year after they apparently began to believe he was innocent. Hatfill recently received a $5.8-million settlement from the government.

Maureen Stevens, the widow of Robert Stevens, a Florida photo editor who was the first victim of the attacks, held a news conference Thursday calling on the government to admit to faults in its investigation and pay additional millions to her and possibly to other victims.

And numerous scientists and legal experts questioned the reliability of the evidence presented by the government, particularly the novel genetic tests that the FBI said proved that Ivins alone carried out the attacks. One of them was Holt, a physicist turned congressman, who said he wanted to see some level of independent inquiry that involved a wide array of experts who could deconstruct the scientific aspects of the investigation.

In his letter, Grassley also wanted to know how exactly the government zeroed in on Ivins, whether he had taken a lie-detector test, what was known about his deteriorating mental condition, and how investigators could be sure that no one else might have helped him in preparing or mailing the letters.

"The FBI has a lot of explaining to do," said Grassley, whose staff has already started consulting experts and collecting information.

"They have been less than forthcoming with Congress throughout this entire process, and it deserves a full and thorough vetting."

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Old Aug 8th, 2008, 03:42 PM       
I'm not fully convinced Ivins was the main culprit of the anthrax attacks considering the fbi has had a history of chasing the wrong suspects in the anthrax case and the head of anthrax invesitigation, michael chertoff orchestrating the cover up and giving fbi false leads. Its far too coincidental that the man had killed himself just in time that the fbi was about to pursue him for questioning. There have been times when it has crossed my mind that he may have been killed in order to be silenced from the real culprit to be revealed. I'm not saying he didn't have any involvement, he probably knew of the anthrax operation. His motives for the anthrax scare remains unclear. Why would he send the letters specifically to the office of the two democrats who were skeptical of the US Patriot Acts that would give bush administration unprecedent powers? A journalist who printed an embarassing photograph of W. Bush's daughters?

My only conclusions that the letters were specifically designed to make it look like it was written by a muslim hence the "death to israel, praise allah" quote. It was to ratchet up fear in the post 9/11 world to convince the majority in signing the patriot act into effect and also to galanivize support for the invasion of the middle east hence the initial blame by the white house that went toward osama bin laden and al qaeda and later, saddam hussein even though there were aboslute zero evidence that would support that claim.
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Old Aug 8th, 2008, 05:44 PM       
Those were my conclusions from those news reports as well.

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