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Old Nov 25th, 2008, 11:06 PM       
Boy, do I have some horror stories for you guys.

So in my search for a single decent random versus game, I came across a team that was strangely competent. Even on Expert mode, me and my two human comrades were escorting our AI Francis with incredible efficiency, making it so far as the second staircase without a scratch. 100 health all around.

...Until, like awaking from a dream, Francis is handed off to JohnnyComeLately53, realizes he has the shotty instead of the uzi (the horror) and subsequently retreats back up the previous staircase without telling anyone. He's immediately smoked and our Louis diligently runs back up the steps to rescue him--and Louis is smoked. This leaves the Zoey and I to the mercy of a Boomer that has suddenly veered around the corner. He vomits on both of us and a hunter pounces me while Zoey tries to fight off the impending horde. Needless to say, we die, and I quit.

THEN.

THEN.

Then I'm on ANOTHER server, this time with another team of dimwits. We make our way down the first staircase and are knocked around a bit--expert mode again. Our human Francis is knocked onto his back and I dutifully run over him to pick him up. On my way over, I spot a Boomer coming our way from the other room. I drop Francis and melee the Boomer...he stumbles backward, incapacitated for the moment. I steady my shotgun for the killing blow after he's done stumbling. I wait. I wait.

Well Francis must not have known what the hell I was doing, as he made it a point to empty an entire pistol clip into the Boomer before he was done stumbling. Needless to say, we're both splashed and I leave yet another team to die.

Why don't I fit in?

EDIT - I forgot to mention the only thing keeping me from hating this game is Francis, who, I don't know if you've noticed, hates fucking everything.

Subways, bridges, zombies, elevators, hospitals, vans, everything.

I sincerely think there's a randomized line of dialogue specifically coded for Francis to say he hates the subject of the previous sentence. It's great and I love him.
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Old Nov 25th, 2008, 11:47 PM       
I feel your pain ;_;

I don't play versus with people who aren't my friends for that same reason.

This game is quite fun though.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 01:41 AM       
I was playing with some friends tonight on Blood Harvest, Versus mode. I don't know who to trust anymore.

We had a bad start--the other team got a tank on the first level and we didn't, so they got a 4x multiplier while we got nothing. We did better the following rounds, slowly closing the gap, until the final round.

First off, everyone but me forgets their health packs. For the finale.

The real problem came when my team happened upon a fork in the road: on the left was a fucking giant stack of hay, completely unguarded and vulnerable to attack. Sure, it looks like fun to climb, but it just LOOKS menacing. Seriously. It's huge, teams could easily be divided into separate sides, etc. etc. To the right is the infamous barn, one of the best Survivor checkpoints in the game, a place where the infected can only come from three directions. This barn is covered on all sides. Making it to this barn is like winning the game. Seriously. This barn is the fucking barn to end all barns. This barn is the new Garden of fucking Eden.

Instinctively, I ran to the barn. I will give you three guesses as to what my team chose.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 07:41 AM       
I think one of your main problems is that you're not shouting at your team enough through a microphone. It's impossible to get a good game going without communication.

As for the barn I've always found it more difficult to defend than the top floor of the house. If two players go in the room directly in front of the stairs and watch the windows, one person stays in the doorway watching the other doors on the landing and one player shoots anything that comes up the stairs you can hold out quite easily till the tank turns up.

Once that happens you need to get downstairs/outside until he's dead then get back to the original positions.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 11:51 AM       
We were playing Blood Harvest yesterday, and for some reason we're doing especially shitty, even for versus. So we eventually just backtrack to the safe house, and figure we'll just shoot them through the bars. Then we hear this rumbling noise, and figure 'Oh god, good thing we got in the safe house; fucking tanks.'
About ten seconds later, we found out the hard way tanks can rip the safe house doors right the fuck off.
Dammit all.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 12:13 PM       
lol nice sig sappington. Try not to suck any dicks on your way through the parking lot.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:35 PM       
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Old Jan 5th, 2009, 12:47 AM       
Has anyone else tried to do a single player campaign on expert?

After failing it several times with friends (two of which were dead weight), I decided I'd give it a go. And it's not as bad as you'd think!

Death Toll was what I tackled, and it really wasn't as difficult as I thought it'd be. The computer players have an assortment of pros and cons that may or may not alleviate a lot of the headaches caused by real teammates.

For instance, it was fucking great to never, ever be shot by friendly fire. Seriously, not once. It was also neat that no matter how bad they looked, they would always end up healing ME. I liked that. It's like they're extra lives or something, just tagging along.

It sucked, though, that my comrades would never, ever pick up the throwable items. Even worse, they can't listen--which means my favorite spot under the boathouse stairs was rendered useless, as my team would continually check on the burning city to see if it was okay.

After losing at the finale tons and tons of times, I finally figured it out: the computer loves miniguns. I don't know about you, but I always completely ignore the mounted gun; I treat it like a witch. But if you get around the gun, the computer will do absolutely everything in their power to protect you. Once I'd started manning the gun, the team was taking literally no damage on either wave.

The tank was a different story, but survivor AI just isn't capable of fleeing, I guess.
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Old Jan 5th, 2009, 01:01 AM       
Yeah FF is brutal on expert. One poorly aimed shotgun blast will just about kill you from 100% health. Great not having to worry about this with bots.

They're also reasonably smart which makes a change from just about every other shooter out there.

I got Untouchables (complete a finale (dead air in this case) with no survivors taking damage) the other day using bots. Admittedly it was on easy mode but it still took some doing.

Talking of achievements I've only got 5 left to get but they're all fucking hard. Particularly Nothing Special which seems impossible even on easy (though I've not tried with all humans).
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Old Jan 5th, 2009, 05:59 AM       
I'll probably end up doing the same thing and running through with some bots to get some achievements (Safety First, the no friendly fire one, is at the top of that list). Stomach upset looks tough, but computer boomers are dumb as hell.

I'm still pissed about not having Man v. Tank. I had a great versus round once where, while my entire team was otherwise distracted, I backpedaled from a tank, ran into the safe house, hid behind some boxes, then ran back out as he came in. All of this outrageous antics gave me time to unload three auto-shotgun clips into him. And I didn't get the achievement, presumably because someone else sunk in 10 damage with a rogue pistol ricochet.
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Old Jan 5th, 2009, 03:23 PM       
I soloed a tank in Blood Harvest once. It was one of the two tanks that attacks during the finale. My other teammates left the game, so I was stuck with three AI that were stuck against a door in the house.

Long story short, the tank chased me all around the crop field as I backpedaled behind everything and unloaded all of my shotgun shells on the fucker.

Then I died as I was running into the military tank at the very end
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Old Jan 5th, 2009, 04:48 PM       
I've gone through every campaign in a slightly different way, style, and path, and I don't think I'll find an end to the replayability.
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Old Jan 5th, 2009, 05:17 PM       
And then we get to play the inevitable free updates that Valve will put up :D

I'm gonna hop on a play Versus. I haven't had a chance to play as the infected yet.

EDIT: I'm really bad as the infected. And being a survivor in versus is really frustrating, since special infected spawn every 15 seconds. It's fun, but I prefer standard co-op.

Oh, and with regards to the Blood Harvest finale, I've found the best place to hide was the closet on the bottom floor of the house. Everyone sits inside, with two people crouching in front and two people standing in back. Take out the first wave, run out to get ammo before the tank comes in. The first floor has enough room to either deal with the tank or run outside. Refill ammo again and go back into the closet for the second wave.

It works on the top floor bathroom too, but there's not enough room to fight a tank upstairs. Also, having the front row armed with shotguns works especially well.
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Old Jan 15th, 2009, 01:00 AM       
New update!

The smoker is good!
The hunter got worse!
Everyone is faster!
Starting Infected team on versus have a HUGE advantage in knowing where both the tank and witch will be!
Witch can't be pounced and then pied piper'd to the survivors!

Good update overall!
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Old Jan 23rd, 2009, 09:34 PM       
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That mod just breathed new life into the game for my brothers and me!
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Old Jan 23rd, 2009, 09:58 PM       
I need to get this for PC. I tried it once and I crave it now.
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Old Jan 23rd, 2009, 10:19 PM       
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Old Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:23 PM       
my name is sephone on xbox live if anyone ever wants to play this with me. I'm not that great though ;/
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Old Jan 23rd, 2009, 11:42 PM       
If you get smoked does it make the elite infected attracted to you too?
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Old Jan 24th, 2009, 12:48 AM       
Just an easier target.

I've been kicked from every game today. For most of them, I was actually in the lead as infected, but the rest of the team is fuckheads.
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Old Jan 24th, 2009, 01:46 PM       
I don't think the game is quite worth the fifty bucks, so took this as an excuse to get me the Valve complete pack on steam, which at 99 bucks for 20 games was a much better deal. :D

Edit: I sound like a commercial
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Old Jan 26th, 2009, 08:48 PM       
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Old Jan 27th, 2009, 01:27 AM       
Just got this a few hours ago, starting to regret not getting skate 2 instead.

Was playing No Mercy online with some guys, one of which made it a point to drop people halfway through revival, multiple times in a row. Then, when we got to the elevator another guy decided to spin around in circles and fire wildly, peppering the whole elevator and everyone still alive with assault rifle rounds. Even better, the 1st jerk who kept half reviving then dropping people decided to run to the last safehouse before the finale before anyone else could and spammed opening and closing the door a bunch, preventing anybody but him from finishing. Finally, a tank came whilst we were yelling obscenities at the guy and killed everyone but him. It's okay though, at least HE got through alive
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Old Jan 27th, 2009, 06:34 AM       
And again, here we have the reason why you should NEVER and under any circumstances, play with random people.
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Old Jan 27th, 2009, 02:23 PM       
I've had a problem getting achievements. I beat Blood Harvest the other night on expert and got no recognition, and I didn't get Untouchables or the one for not getting vomited on when I played through Dead Air yesterday.

What the fuck's up?
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