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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 12:09 PM        Govt Education is bad.... no, really?
Here is the source: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/t...20030326.shtml

edit :Since the man who wrote this, Sowell, is black, he must be a race tratior because high-rise liberal white people know that govt schools are the best for black students in shithole areas!


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A recent news story about a teacher who assigned her students to write anti-war letters may have seemed like just an isolated episode, but teachers using students for their own little ego trips is by no means uncommon. Perhaps the worst recent example was a teacher who unleashed her venom on the children of military personnel who had gone off to fight in Iraq.

Just last week I received a bundle of letters from students who have apparently been given an assignment to write to me by a teacher in an English class in Flat Rock High School in Flat Rock, Michigan. This was occasioned by a column of mine that said some things that were not politically correct.

The first of these letters was from a girl who informed me, from her vast store of teenage wisdom, of things that I knew 30 years ago, and closed by telling me that I needed to find out about poverty. Since I spent more years in poverty than she has spent in the world, this would be funny if it were not so sad.

With American students consistently scoring at or near the bottom on international tests, you would think that our schools would have better things to do than tell kids to write letters to strangers, spouting off about things they know little or nothing about.

Flat Rock High School's envelopes, in which the students wrote their assigned letters, have the motto: "Where Tomorrow's Leaders Learn!" Sadly, they are learning not to be leaders but to be sheep-like followers, repeating politically correct notions and reacting with snotty remarks to anyone who contradicts them.

It is bad enough when someone takes the position that he has made up his mind and doesn't want to be confused by the facts. It is worse when someone else makes up his mind for him and then he dismisses any facts to the contrary by attributing bad motives to those who present those facts.

Creating mindless followers is one of the most dangerous things that our public schools are doing. Young people who know only how to vent their emotions, and not how to weigh opposing arguments through logic and evidence, are sitting ducks for the next talented demagogue who comes along in some cult or movement, including movements like those that put the Nazis in power in Germany.

At one time, the educator's creed was: "We are here to teach you how to think, not what to think." Today, schools across the country are teaching students what to think -- whether about the environment, the war, social policy, or whatever.

Even if what they teach were true, that would be of little use to these young people in later life. Issues and conditions change so much over time that even the truth about today's issues becomes irrelevant when confronted with the future's new challenges.

If students haven't been taught to think, then they are at the mercy of events, as well as being at the mercy of those who know how to take advantage of their ignorance and their emotions.

Classroom brainwashing is not new. I wrote about it a decade ago in my book "Inside American Education." Hearings at the Department of Education brought out the same things a decade before that.

When will the voting public get the message? Where are the parents of these children? Do parents in Flat Rock, Michigan, want their children's time in school wasted on their teachers' ideological hobby horses, instead of being used to prepare an intellectual foundation for their further education?

In the long run, the greatest weapon of mass destruction is stupidity. In an age of artificial intelligence, too many of our schools are producing artificial stupidity, in the sense of ideas and attitudes far more foolish than young people would have arrived at on their own. I doubt whether the youngsters in Flat Rock, Michigan, were brought up by their parents to say and do the silly things their teachers have assigned them to do.

Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of an avowed enemy can destroy many Americans, but they cannot destroy America, because we are too strong and too capable of counterattack. Only Americans can destroy America. But too many of our schools have for years been quietly undermining the values and abilities that are needed to preserve any society -- and especially a free society.



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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 01:46 PM       
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Where are the parents of these children?
I've been screaming that question for a long time.
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 01:58 PM        Article
Very well written.

I got suspend once....many years ago.....for asking a teacher "Isn't there more than one way to think?"
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 02:10 PM       
Figures that someone who didn't even know that Israel was in the UN would post this drivel.
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 02:19 PM       
Actually, I did know Israel was in the UN, but do they truly have a say? Nope. Go back into the sandbox and try to think of another excuse for you not to argue the points that were made.

Yes, Thomas Sowell, very educated ex-military black man who isn't a liberal slave, writes "drivel" as you put it. "Drivel" as you put it that is citied all along the land of education and politics. Famous writer for many newspapers and web sites.

theapportioner, loser on a geek message board, citied by maybe his mother. Liberal bed-wetter. More or less contributes nothing to intelligent conversation or making the world better.


Now, who's opinion would I trust most?
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 02:19 PM       
He didn't write it. Is it wrong? Should teachers be forcing students to promote their own beliefs?

Better yet, should they be focusing on political activism before they teach the fundamentals of research and the English language?
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 02:47 PM       
VinceZeb: Dude, we all saw it. You said that Israel wasn't in the UN. This was no typo. Get a decent education.

El Blanco: Teachers shouldn't use students (esp. high school and below) to push their own beliefs in that way, no. Regardless of a teacher's pro-war or anti-war (or pro or anti anything) stance. Schools are run like autocracies already, we shouldn't make it worse.

As far as political activism goes however, as I recall, I learned about the glories of American history at least six times in my grade school years. One of the main goals of public education is to make informed, voting adults. I consider that "activism".
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 02:59 PM       
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One of the main goals of public education is to make informed, voting adults.
The problem is that the school systems aren't coming through on that "informed" part. As for voting...well, we all know the numbers on that.

Its not just public schools. either. My old high school was once one of the best in the City. Now its going down the shitter with the rest.
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 03:01 PM       
Well, I can agree on that. Grades 1-12 were twelve very dark years for me.
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 04:55 PM       
Wouldn't all this depend on the views/attitudes of the individual teachers in question, not the school system itself? I have read of conservative teachers doing the same thing. Perhaps the best course of action to enact guidelines against teaching only one side of an issue or political doctrine.
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 06:12 PM        Teachers
Jeannette -
True Dat......
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Old Mar 26th, 2003, 06:36 PM       
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I have read of conservative teachers doing the same thing.
And that is wrong too.

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Perhaps the best course of action to enact guidelines against teaching only one side of an issue or political doctrine.
No, the best is course of action is to take the posturing out of the curriculum. They can have after school clubs if they want.

Has anyone else seen the way we look compared to other countries? I understand if we don't win every stupid little comparison and can chalk that up to different dynamics between countries. But, the gap that shows up in every study is just sickening. We are almost always near dead last.

If the kids can't read, they shouldn't be wasting time writing uniformed letters to newspaper reporters to please their teachers.
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Old Mar 27th, 2003, 01:52 AM       
A teacher needs to teach kids how to think. If he is going to present sides, present both sides to the argument. A teacher should not be biased. They are teachers, not indoctrinatiors. I dont care WHICH side of the fence they are on.
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Old Mar 27th, 2003, 04:09 PM       
Teaching IS indoctrination, dude.

I was more concerned about the exploitation cited in the opinion.
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