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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 02:18 AM       
Perhaps Kal has a tiny little chip on his shoulder. "Help Help I'm being repressed."
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 04:01 AM       
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Military Messiah said it a little differently, but if this board offends you, then stop coming here. Actually, regardless, stop coming here. Whiny kraut.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 09:38 AM       
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Well, I guess Martin Luther King's assasination was sarcasm too. I guess Amadou DiAllo's raping was sarcasm too. How about Hitler? Was he being sarcastic too? I guess we didn't see the joke in killing six million jews.
1)Did we assasinate your mom for giving birth to a pathetic shit like you?
2) Did we rape your sister?
3)Hey??? DID WE MASSACRE A HOARD OF NEWBIES? I sure hope we did.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 12:47 PM       
Kal, Jersey, whoever you are. I read a couple of pages, long enough to see that you are totally blind when nything being made fun of is outside your box. Kevin nailed you and you didn't even get he was just drawing a comparison.

A lot of the race baiting shit here isn't funny and that's it's worst sin. Not it's offensiveness, because paddling in the mud of offensiveness is the ONLY thing they're trying to do besides piss you off personally. I promise, if you'd posted "I really hate when someone uses the word "Blue" " You'd have gotten just as many poists saying "Don't be such a Blue blue, you son of blue. Blue, blue. Blue blue blue."

Is it dumb? Sure! Does it have any real content? No. Are you keeping it going? Absolutely. Is the righteous indignation you feel giving you a sense of definition? You tell me.

And stop being such a blue, you blue blue.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 01:06 PM       
since i was directly qouted i will be the first (i hope) to tell you to go fuck yourself.

Ohh poor fucking puerto rican you. the racists are so mean to me!!!

that sure does not stop you from making gay jokes does it jersey? what makes you think your minority is any better than someone else's?

and as for all of us being white, sorry pal. i have a black grandfather, and am legally black according to the US government. try being a mix breed growing up in the late 80's and early 70's in this country. try adding on being poor. add on having a mother that had to live throught the horror of stalin starving out the Jews in Latvia (her adoptive fahter had to flee the country cause he got caught hiding and feeding Jews in the basement of his resteraunt and helping them get to the US). no one has ever given me a damn thing, so dont assume you know so fucking much about your tormentors.

racist humor amuses me. it amuses me more when a guy who will throw around fag and gay jokes or some other kind of hate, will cry like a bitch when you pick on his pet variety of human being.

i dont hate any race, i am too muddled in my own origins to do so without being a complete fraud. i just dont care, and racial/sexual humor amuses me cause it is the lowest level.

i do hate you though. you unfunny, self rightous piece of shit.

you should leave and never come back.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 01:08 PM       
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If anything it represents murder and oppression.
I am not easily offended with what I read in a place like this. Ignorance is however my weak point, and you just did a pretty good job offending me.

The communist hammer & sickle does not stand for one thing only. It doesn't stand for Stalinism just like the American Flag doesn't stand for McCarthyism. A flag is as good as the person carrying it, and many a great person carried the red flag before and after Stalin smeared it.

An intelligent person, such as you making such a claim indicates that intelligence isn't enough and there's a long way to go, based on historical research before one could responsibly judge a system of belief.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 01:51 PM        Racism
I'm probably gonna get completely flamed for this by several newbies. But who really cares.

I am so sick of hearing how racist white people are. I am sick of hearing how white people do this and how white people do that. How white people have kept everyone else down. I am sick of what amounts to nothing more than racism aimed at white people.

It is time for over-sensitive little whiny-assed children to get up bandage their skinned knees and get on with life. They are so busy looking for racism that no matter where they turn there it is. STOP LOOKING FOR THE F'N PROBLEM!
If you keep looking for it it will find you.
If you have it so ingrained in your head that white people are racist you are always going to approach situations with them looking for the problem. And you will either create the problem yourself or overlook the fact that the majority of the situations you face with white people have nothing to do with race.

Think how white people feel in the following situations who is really being persecuted? Who is really being repressed?

You can have black pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have hispanic pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have asian pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have arab pride and be proud of your heritige
If you have white pride you are a racist

You are applying for college scholarships. You are the most qualified. But you are white. Someone of hispanic descent who is less qualified gets the scholarship.

White people have to be so damn PC in everything they say and do or be called racist. Look what happened to Abercrombie and Fitch with the asian inspired shirts. If one of the ghetto clothing lines made shirts like that depicting white people in similar circumstances it would not only be accepted it would be praised.

You know, I know a lot of white people who don't even know what to call people of any ethnic origin. They stutter and try to say things not to offend the people around them. They are so afraid that the ethnic people around them are going to take anything they say as racist. Is this because they are racist? NO It is because they are so used to ethnic people looking for racism that this is the only thing they know.

Stop looking for it and it will go away.


Does real racism still exist? Yes.
But white people aren't the only ones who are racist.
Take a look in the damn mirror and realize that you are pointing fingers at whites for a hell of a lot less than you do yourself.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 01:55 PM       
VCA is back. and if ayone tries to flame you sweety, i will defend you to the end!!!!!! HOORAY!!!!
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 02:02 PM        YAY
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 02:06 PM       
i sent you a private message

are you doing OK? i am glad to see you back. we need more women around here. cause you smell good and are harder to make gay jokes about
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 02:07 PM       
YAH! where the fuck is my heritage? HUH?
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 03:15 PM       
That was a fantastic rant! I feel exactly the same way. In fact, I have a chip on my shoulder about people of ANY race taking pride in their heritage, but let's not get into that.

Though, in my country, things are tipping a little over to the wrong side now. Ever since 9/11 people here have dropped the uber-PC act and started feeling comfortable expressing their fear (in all its ugly forms) for your ordinary, everyday muslim. Here's to hoping that'll sort itself out in the coming years. Political correctness is nice, but it's easily turned into a stranglehold.

Er, getting a bit off topic here, but at least we're still in the Philosophy forum. :sunglasses
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 03:22 PM        .
I think this applies here:
"Fuck patriotism. It's a round world last time I checked."
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 03:22 PM        PC
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Very well put!
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 04:44 PM       
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The communist hammer & sickle does not stand for one thing only. It doesn't stand for Stalinism just like the American Flag doesn't stand for McCarthyism. A flag is as good as the person carrying it, and many a great person carried the red flag before and after Stalin smeared it.
So you are saying that Lenin was a great person? Or Kruschev? whatever
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 05:11 PM       
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No, I don't hate white people. My girlfriend is a white girl born and raised in Pennsylvania. Some of my friends are white.
OOOH LOOK AT ME I HAVE WHITE FRIENDS OWOOOHHH
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 05:32 PM       
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Yes. And in any case, not a butcher.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 06:17 PM       
i think that lenin was genuinely looking out for his people (this from my admittedly limited knowledge of the subject) stalin was the maniacal asshole.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 06:22 PM       
Relax Helm, I realize there's more to the flag than just Stalin, but I'd say Stalin did a good job of MAKING it represent terrible things. Sure, we can talk about the nice things Hitler did for pure Germans as Chancellor, does that still not make him a genocidal maniac in the eyes of history....?

And Lenin, just to be fair, was no saint either (but who is?).
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 06:32 PM        Hmmmm
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 06:49 PM       
Okay I'll relax. Your analogy was off hawever. Hitler and his work was the glorification of fascism, it was fascism done 'right' so to speak. Stalin's pogroms were the deprivation of communism. The difference is substantial.

And I am not saying Lenin was a saint. I am saying he is a historically significant figure that stood for the red flag, and whose total historical input cannot be considered negative.

Anyway, I understand what you're saying, I just wish you wouldn't use such black & white examples, even when trying to make a point that's understandable by dumbfucks like Jerseylad.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 10:01 PM       
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No Mock. I was just exposing everyone here for the racist shitheads they truly are. It's happened before, and I was just sick of it. And no, I won't shut the fuck up. I won't shut up in the face of discrimination and racism. Ban me if you wish, but at least I took a stand.


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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 11:01 PM       
VCA, read "A Theory of Justice" by the recently departed John Rawls.

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You can have hispanic pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have asian pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have arab pride and be proud of your heritige
If you have white pride you are a racist
Though I think any self-identification based on a fiction such as race is silly, and not so good, VCA you're missing or downplaying the point. The difference is power, and it's as obvious as a cannonball to the face that caucasians dominate American society. Racism is -still- a serious problem, whether it is the classical 'i hate you nig' associated with the south or the less obvious, but still
pervasive arrogant, self-segregating white population of the north.

Not to mention, you lumping people into broad, sweeping categories such as 'asian' or 'hispanic' is also racism, I would say.

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You are applying for college scholarships. You are the most qualified. But you are white. Someone of hispanic descent who is less qualified gets the scholarship.
Merit is -hardly- the only qualification for college admissions. Not just diversity, but also athletic prowess and legacies get people in, in spite of merit. No one is suing UMich because their football players get preferential treatment (it says so on their admissions calculation sheet), or Harvard because they let in some dumb-as-rocks blueblood named Tadd Winthrop because his family has been going to the big H since 1636. It's bloody hypocrisy.

Many college scholarships go to minorities, yes, but so what? This has nothing to do with AA.
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Old Feb 5th, 2003, 11:06 PM       
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This is fucking crap. No one is burning down your house, or mutilating your genitals. All you are asked to do is change a few words you use in everyday language, and be a little more sensitive towards people who are sensitive to racism for whatever reason. Stop complaining.
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VCA, read "A Theory of Justice" by the recently departed John Rawls.


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You can have hispanic pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have asian pride and be proud of your heritige
You can have arab pride and be proud of your heritige
If you have white pride you are a racist

Though I think any self-identification based on a fiction such as race is silly, and not so good, VCA you're missing or downplaying the point. The difference is power, and it's as obvious as a cannonball to the face that caucasians dominate American society. Racism is -still- a serious problem, whether it is the classical 'i hate you nig' associated with the south or the less obvious, but still
pervasive arrogant, self-segregating white population of the north.

Not to mention, you lumping people into broad, sweeping categories such as 'asian' or 'hispanic' is also racism, I would say.
that sounds suspiciously like communism/socialism to me....

you think race is a fiction? you are fucking ridiculous and pathetic. it is people like you who are destroying the west.
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