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mburbank · #1

Dean can fire his campaign manager if he wants, though I personally thinks it's a mistake. It's who he hired to replace him that bothers me.

" Neel, Gore's former senatorial and vice presidential chief of staff, served as chief executive of the U.S. Telecom Association in Washington before working on Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. "

A friggin' lobbyist. I am very disapointed.

Now I'm on a fence. Originally I was a Kerry supporter, but his vote to authorize the war pissed me off, so I became a Dean supporter. Deans taking a lobbyist into the fold isn't as bad, but it's damn disapointing from someone who's strongest appeal was his resistnce to moneyed special interest groups.

Pee Wee Herman · #2

I don't think it matters anyway, since Dean is fucked. He lost New Hampshire and Iowa.

mburbank · #3

See, I don't think that's means it's over. It could be over on Tuesday, but it certainly isn't over now, and canning tippi nd replacing him with a washington machine weasel smells like a Hail Mary pass to me which is as good as giving up, which makes me mad.

Luckily for me, I've been a huge Kerry fan for years (He tried to blow the whistle on the CIA's drugs for weapons thing two years before Iran Contra) and if it hadn't been for his bizarre endorsement of W's wild ride I'd have been in his camp all along.

Pee Wee Herman · #4

You're right. It isn't over till the fat lady sings. However, Dean's chances of winning seem rather slim. Besides, in my opinion, I think Kerry is more "electable" than Dean.

Dean really fucked himself with that screaming thing.

KevinTheOmnivore · #5

I think he wanted Trippi to step down to like media coordinator or something, and Trippi prefered to just ride off into the sunset.

The Dean situation is sad. It's believed that the "I have a scream" speech in Iowa cost him New Hampshire. Some of the things you always hear people bitching about is that politics is boring, fake, lacks passion, is corrupt, etc.

So this guy shows passion, shows energy and determination, and gets pigeon holed as the "angry" candidate. It just further proves my point that Americans are the most fickle people on the planet....

mburbank · #6

See, the screaming thing didn't bother me in the least, although it is a funny clip. I thought he looked far more like a human being than W. has ever looked at any point.

KevinTheOmnivore · #7

It was a pretty girly scream....

EDIT: His speech after finishing second in N.H. was excellent. I try not to get drawn in by any of these characters anymore, but I'll admit he had me. Okay, I cried.

mburbank · #8

that's pretty girly right there.

El Blanco · #9

What do you expect from a vegan?

Anyway, I don't think his new campaign manager is a big deal. As much as people want it avoided, a candidate needs some insider savy. A babe in the woods isn't going to get anything done. Sure, he won't be so easy for the special interests to push over, but how is he going to get all his promises fufilled?

Its all a moot point for Dean anyway.

mburbank · #10

Right now it's all I can do to keep from making a joke using the word 'vegan' and a female body part word.

KevinTheOmnivore · #11

I'm back on meat now, actually. I can't change my user name. :/

mburbank · #12

"Vegan", female body part word, "Back on meat", what the hell are you people trying to do, kill me?

glowbelly · #13

the dean scream cracks me up.

on our local, VERY CONSERVATIVE, talk radio station they do this bit every single day where they say, "hey howard dean, how's the weather in cleveland today?"

and then the scream.

it cracks me up everytime.

even though i HATE the radio station.

mburbank · #14

It's just funny, in any context. Frankly it made me like him more.

Then he hires a friggin' telecom lobbyist.

glowbelly · #15

me too. he screamed. he was excited. big whoopty doo. at least he didn't say something in all seriousness that made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

i'm still confuzzled about who to vote for. kerry seems neato, but he's got a weird lookin head.

VinceZeb · #16

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Originally Posted by KevinTheHerbivore

I'm back on meat now, actually....

The jokes just write themselves.

Fag.

Cosmo Electrolux · #17

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb

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Originally Posted by KevinTheHerbivore

I'm back on meat now, actually....

The jokes just write themselves.

Fag.

that they do

dickhole.

Dole · #18

"The jokes just write themselves. "

-which is lucky for you, innit.

Buffalo Tom · #19

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb

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Originally Posted by KevinTheHerbivore

I'm back on meat now, actually....

The jokes just write themselves.

Fag.

So this is what counts as your incisive sense of humour? I was expecting something sharper from the the saviour of Iraq.

Shit, I keep forgetting you're a cowardly fat-ass. I was wrong to have high expectations.

The One and Only... · #20

Dean is done. Stick a fork in him.

And from Bush's perspective, that isn't a good thing. A Kerry/Edwards ticket would be much harder to beat than Dean/Whoever.

Miss Modular · #21

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb

The jokes just write themselves.

Which sounds like the story of your life.

Protoclown · #22

I didn't get an opportunity to hear Dean's Iowa speech or the scream or anything. I saw a bit of it replayed at the gym, but it was closed captioned and I couldn't hear it without headphones. Does anybody know of a place where I can download either the speech or maybe just the scream? I'd really like to hear it.

And I agree about Kerry having a strange head. I just don't know if I could vote for a man like that.