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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 02:53 PM        Conservative fights to be right - liberals oppose
Student fights for the right to be 'right'
Conservative teen shakes up campus

Tim Bueler, like many cocksure 17-year-olds, is strident in expressing his political beliefs.

And to him, the Republican Party leans too far to the left.

That was the spark that launched his Conservative Club at Rancho Cotate High School in the Sonoma County town of Rohnert Park and ignited two months of rhetorical ugliness on campus. It also put him on the conservative talk show circuit, including an appearance Thursday on Fox television's "The O'Reilly Factor."

It all started on Dec. 3, when Bueler posted a flyer announcing a new "Conservative Hot Line" for the 1,800 students at his high school. It encouraged students to call the hot line to report "un-American comments expressed by your liberal teachers."

"Let's take a stand against the liberal traitors who call themselves teachers," the flyer urged.

Two days later, an anonymous teacher drafted a response proposing a "Liberal Hot Line," which parodied the tone of Bueler's missive.

"Let's take a stand against the neo-conservative wing-nuts who call themselves Americans," the flyer declared.

Things could have stopped there, but backing off, apparently, isn't in Bueler's nature. So, a week later, he fired off another newsletter.

"Liberals," it pronounced, "welcome every Muhammad, Jamul and Jose who wishes to leave his Third World state and come to America -- mostly illegally -- to rip off our health care system, balkanize our language and destroy our political system."

That did it.

Latino students were furious, and 40 school employees and teachers, including Principal Mitchell Carter, signed a letter protesting the inflammatory rhetoric. Bueler claimed he was threatened, called "Nazi" and other epithets, even by teachers, who he said refused to protect him from angry mobs of classmates. He soon was being escorted to and from class by school security officers.

After Bueler's anti-immigrant newsletter came out, school staff suggested to him that he stay home for a few days as "a cooling-off period," according to a fact sheet provided by the district.

For his part, Carter, the principal, isn't responding to questions and is referring calls to district Superintendent Michael Watenpaugh, who has criticized Bueler for distributing inflammatory material without first getting permission from a student adviser, as is school policy.

District officials have acknowledged, however, that the school faculty and the principal made some "missteps" that may have helped inflame matters.

Watenpaugh said Carter and others officials were wrong for suggesting the "cooling-off period."

The situation has remained volatile.

For example, 15 police officers swarmed onto campus to quell disturbances following the Conservative Club's Jan. 16 meeting.

Nonetheless, the school has not silenced Bueler, who started the club -- which now claims 50 members -- last fall.

And the lanky junior appears to be enjoying, if not reveling in, his role at the center of an ideological free-for-all. He has become a hot commodity on conservative talk radio shows, where he has not been shy about expressing his support for God, guns and country and his contempt for liberals. Several nationally syndicated television shows have called for interviews, including, he says, "Good Morning America." School officials have gotten thousands of e- mails from people across the country who, they say, were whipped up into a righteous frenzy by a stream of rhetoric.

A good deal of the verbal pyrotechnics have come from Bueler's hero, ultra-conservative radio personality Michael Savage, as well as Internet pundits and the right-leaning Washington Times.

They paint Bueler as a patriotic hero who stood up to howling liberal hypocrites trying to stifle his voice and trod upon the traditional American values he was bravely trying to uphold.

"Remember the movie 'Rebel Without a Cause'?" asked Savage, the radio host whose book, "Savage Nation," Bueler borrowed liberally from in outlining his club's philosophy. "This kid represents rebels with a cause. He represents the new counterculture."

All of which is a bunch of ideological baloney swathed in righteous propaganda, according to Mark Alton, the Rancho Cotate athletic director and science teacher who co-wrote the faculty letter protesting Bueler's comments.

"Certain outside conservative groups are using this to further their own political agenda, which is to attack the public education system," Alton said.

The real issue, he said, is not free speech but how to maintain peace on a school campus by having rational discourse.

"Those statements about illegal immigration and students of color and his attack on liberal teachers as traitors offend people, and many of us think they are inappropriate," Alton said. "He has a right to his opinions, and nobody wants to deny him his rights, but there are certain things that are inappropriate on a school campus. When hateful, intolerant discourse is being used, it is our responsibility to respond."

The fact that Bueler cannot walk around campus without an escort isn't something the First Amendment can do anything about, said UC Berkeley constitutional law Professor Jesse Choper. What's significant, he said, is that the school district provided that security.

"This school district chose to honor his free speech and sought to protect him from threats. That's commendable," Choper said. "It is not totally clear that (Bueler) had an enforceable constitutional right to go as far as he did, such as calling the teachers names like that. By no means am I saying that they could have stopped him, but they responded in a responsible fashion. ''

For his part, Bueler seems comfortable in the magnifying glare of the media spotlight. He sat at home recently contemplating interview requests from at least four national television talk shows and a scheduled appearance Feb. 7 as the featured speaker at the conservative Eagle Forum's annual convention.

" 'Good Morning America' is a little shaky,'' he scoffed, referring to efforts by producers to get him on the prestigious show. "They're real liberal. "
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 02:59 PM       
Wow. The kid in that story makes Anne Coulter look like Howard Dean.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:01 PM       
Let the little nazi run his mouth, I suppose. Someone is eventually going to kick his lanky ass, so it'll all turn out ok.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:03 PM       
Kicking someone's ass is pretty hard to do when a state-provided bodyguard follows him around.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:07 PM       
Still, it's not impossible.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:08 PM       
They didn't say he has bodyguards 24/7.. just escorts to and from class.

I bet this kid stays barricaded in his room.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:14 PM       
I think the kid did have the right to do what he did, but he did go a little far with the second flyer about immigrants and shit. Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you should say it when it will piss everyone off. Just because I can get a swatstika tattooed on my forehead and go to a bar mitzvah and shout in German like Hitler, doesn't mean I should.

When he said was insulting immigrants in his second flyer, that was unamerican, since America is an immigrant country. aproximately 99% of the people in the USA aren't exactly descendants of Chief Galloping Horse. Also, immigration is good for the USA. They create jobs. These immigrants will need things like health care, food, electricity, homes, etc. People will get hired to provide those things, thus creating more jobs.

I feel that this sort of political extremism is bad, be it far, far left (communism) or far, far right (laissez faire capitalism). Political extremism has all sorts of nasty side effects. Many people don't seem to realize that conservatives and liberals are merely sides of the same coin.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:20 PM       
I think that guy goes a little farther right than laissez faire capitalism.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:26 PM       
It was the most right leaning political persuasion I could think of. Can you think of one that leans further right than laissez faire capitalism?
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 03:44 PM       
The neo nazism that this kid is spewing. Laissez Faire capitalism is just classic liberalism.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 04:08 PM       
Am I the only one who thinks it absurd that people like this kid think the "average American" is on their side?
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 04:14 PM       
I just realized that everyone in this thread except Dr. Boogie and myself has a black and white avatar. :O
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 04:22 PM       
Communism and Capitalism are economic theories, not political.

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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 04:36 PM       
Nonsense - of course they are political. Economics is as much politics as science.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 04:41 PM       
By modern standards of what constitutes the right-wing, the most extreme branch would be Pinochet-esque dictatorship.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 06:08 PM       
Is the point of that article is that the kid is a complete asshole who only feels ral if people hate him, and that right wing talk show hosts who are adults who only feel real when they are hated think they've found a hero in him? 'Cause that's just sad.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 06:31 PM       
far right (laissez faire capitalism). this is not far right.

And communism and capitalism are socioeconomical theories.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 06:51 PM       
I'm curious as to why you were interested this, OAO. What was it about this article that made you want to post it instead of your usual laissez-faire capitalism stuff?
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 07:53 PM       
Because it touches on so many issues, such as:

1) Assholes;

2) People who give the right-wing a bad name;

3) Hypocrits who only tolerate those with their own views;

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4) Free speech.

This sort of thing is a perfect example of why I hate the modern day left-wing and conservative right-wing.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 07:59 PM       
So where does that leave you?
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 08:04 PM       
I don't see why he needs protection... if he cannot fend any agressor off utilizing his own strengths, then the world is better off without him, right? Moreover, making his continued existance dependent on police protection is an oxymoron since said police is an instrument of a humanist state(well, debatable, but for the sake of the argument)... on that note the campus he's on is also one institution in many dedicated to the humanitarian education. He surely doesn't need any of that, does he?

This person shouldn't hide behind free-speech arguments. He should impose his beliefs using might, if he weren't such a hipocrite.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 08:05 PM       
Libertarian. Think of a conservative, only slap on numerous socially liberal policies for a little more flavor.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 08:09 PM       
Talk about eating the pie and still having it.
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 08:24 PM       
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Talk about eating the pie and still having it.
It's "cake", Helm. The expression is "Have your cake and eat it too."
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Old Jan 31st, 2004, 09:40 PM       
You guys are missing the point. In terms of sheer antagonistic prickishness, OAO has found himself a kindred spirit. Hooray for him.
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