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Old Apr 28th, 2003, 01:22 PM        ****PROOF**** france IS NOT OUR ALLY.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85274,00.html

Dossier Shows France Briefed Iraq on U.S. Plans

Monday, April 28, 2003
By Matthew Campbell

BAGHDAD, Iraq — France gave Saddam Hussein (search)'s regime regular reports on its dealings with American officials, documents unearthed in the wreckage of the Iraqi foreign ministry have revealed.

The first Iraqi files to emerge documenting French help for the regime show that Paris shared with Baghdad the contents of private transatlantic meetings and diplomatic traffic from Washington.

[On the reported finding, a U.S. government official told Fox News: "We have nothing at this time to substantiate it and have not seen the documents the story reports were found. We are looking forward to taking a look at the documents to see if they provide any useful information. [But] Until the documents are provided to the U.S. government or the British government, they stand as just a single news report."]

The information, said in the files to have come partly from "friends of Iraq" at the French foreign ministry (search), kept Saddam abreast of every development in American planning and may have helped him to prepare for war. One report warned of an American "attempt to involve Iraq with terrorism" as "cover for an attack on Iraq."

Another, dated September 25, 2001, from Naji Sabri, the Iraqi foreign minister, to Saddam's palace, was based on a briefing from the French ambassador in Baghdad and covered talks between presidents Jacques Chirac and George W Bush.

Chirac was said to have been told that America was "100% certain Usama bin Laden was behind the September 11 attacks and that the answer of the United States would be decisive."

The report also gave a detailed account of American attitudes towards Saddam amid anxiety in Iraq that the country might soon become a target of American reprisals.

"Information available to the French embassy in Washington suggests that there is no intention on the part of the Americans to attack Iraq, but that matters might change quickly," said the document from folders marked France 2001 found by The Sunday Times.

"According to French information, a discussion about Iraq is going on in Washington between [secretary of state] Colin Powell and the Zionist [Paul] Wolfowitz [the deputy defense secretary]. Powell was against a military attack on Iraq whereas Wolfowitz was in favor of a strong military operation against Iraq."

The report noted that "the Israelis have informed the French ambassador in Washington that they have no evidence of Iraqi involvement in the attacks."

An account of a meeting between Hubert Vedrine, the former Socialist foreign minister of France, and Powell after September 11 also made its way into the Baghdad archives. Powell was said to have disclosed that he would raise with Russia the subject of its "co-operation" with Iraq.

Powell, the report said, "is going to ask the Russian foreign minister how Russia could co-operate with a country that had expressed satisfaction at America being subjected to such attacks. He is going to ask for a new draft resolution from the United Nations security council on Iraq."

Bernard Jenkin, shadow defense secretary, said the briefings went beyond diplomatic courtesies and pointed to French "duplicitousness."

A report last night claimed documents found in the headquarters of the Mukhabarat, the Iraqi security service, showed that a representative of Usama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network had visited Baghdad in 1998. However, a Western intelligence source said: "There have been contacts between bin Laden's people and Iraq's people in the past, but fleeting contacts and we have never seen that as a strong institutional link. Even if there was a visit it does not amount to an ongoing institutional relationship."

At least 12 Iraqis died yesterday when unknown attackers threw an incendiary device into a Baghdad arms dump.

Fox News' Andrew Schwartz contributed to this report.
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Old Apr 28th, 2003, 01:37 PM       
i think chirac is living in the past, in the days of French glory. he is desperately trying to check American power in order to regain said glory. this is hurtful to our relations, but won't destroy them.
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Old Apr 28th, 2003, 03:18 PM       
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"We have nothing at this time to substantiate it and have not seen the documents the story reports were found."
So that's "*****proof*****", huh Ronnie?

In one word: slander. And I'll gladly take that back if this can be proven. But it's more likely that this was released into the media for its one-time shock effect, only to be ignored later on so it remains a rumor.
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Old Apr 28th, 2003, 04:22 PM       
They'll find the documents as soon as they find the WMD!
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Old Apr 28th, 2003, 04:45 PM       
i've got documents that show that the bush administration was involved in nearly unilaterally and pre-emptively planning to topple a government..
according to most of the world this is considered a war crime and bush should be arrested, but does it matter?

the only things that are credible to this administration are the things they say are credible.. they don't really have to be fact or based on reason at all so.. we will smear france with whatever we feel like, its the in thing to do right now.. too bad the united states of amnesia doesnt remember france helping us be liberated from brittain
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Old Apr 28th, 2003, 05:32 PM       
Hrumph! THAT TEARS IT! NO MORE FRENCH FRIES FOR ME!
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Old Apr 29th, 2003, 09:47 AM       
"We have nothing at this time to substantiate it and have not seen the documents the story reports were found. We are looking forward to taking a look at the documents to see if they provide any useful information. [But] Until the documents are provided to the U.S. government or the British government, they stand as just a single news report."

Ronnie. Just bringing us the news again? You didn't find your other "News" items that turned out to be nothing at all embarassing enough? Do you take your clothes out of the washer while they're still soaking wet because you don't have the patience to wait for the spin cycle to end?
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