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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 06:19 PM       
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suprisingly enough, it actually doesn't save any money. in places like texas it costs like 3x as much to pay for an execution than it would to just house the inmate for the rest of their lives.


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It costs approximately $20,000 a year to house one inmate. It costs less than $90 for the chemicals required to preform a lethal injection.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 06:21 PM       
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not me i'd want to be in jail for life, at least that gives you a chance of escaping / dying in glorious battle
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 06:44 PM       
Don't forget that you'd probably be in a pretty hardcore prison if you were even considered for the death penalty, so you'd be surrounded by crazy fucking assholes all the time for the rest of your life and they'd probably poke you in your chest EVERY DAY and make fun of you and make your life suck.
You think your cell mate would let you read your precious, "True history of the samurai" books in prison, tadao? He'd probably make you eat it with your butt
Also I dunno how high your chance of escape would be.

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Yea but i think you have to count the years of housing while they are on death row, which I'm sure death row is like a fine hotel compared to the standard cost to house an inmate -- and I'm sure all the employees that deal with it get paid extra. Plus all the corruption and the judicial/investigative procedure could maybe add up. usually people are on death row for a while before they are actually executed.

I don't think "cost" should necessarily be a consideration, though. Especially since things can be done to lower the cost. That said, that statistic seems retarded. Also, given the fact that there's only so many executions (especially compared to the amount of people serving life in prison) in a year I doubt that it really adds much to the bill. If there's a hundred people executed in a year, then that's the cost of housing 300 inmates.

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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 06:50 PM       
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It costs approximately $20,000 a year to house one inmate. It costs less than $90 for the chemicals required to preform a lethal injection.
let's just compare the initial trial; the process by which a capital case arrives at sentencing compared to that of a noncapital case is radically different, with an average cost difference of about $800,000.
http://www.wsba.org/lawyers/groups/finalreport.pdf

there's too many variables to get into, the point is - it doesn't save money and with the average time on death row rising from 15-20 years to 25-30 it's becoming more and more ridiculously expensive.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 07:07 PM       
elx, shoosh. I'm pretty sure most people who are sentenced to life in prison are in there for longer than 30 years, and those extra years make up for the cash spent on capital sentencing.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 07:13 PM       
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elx, shoosh. I'm pretty sure most people who are sentenced to life in prison are in there for longer than 30 years, and those extra years make up for the cash spent on capital sentencing.
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which I'm sure death row is like a fine hotel compared to the standard cost to house an inmate -- and I'm sure all the employees that deal with it get paid extra.
kahl said it best.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 07:19 PM       
If the death penalty was reinstated in states where its banned, it would obviously have to be streamlined. That and I'd like to see more people sentenced to death. If you're doing life, then what's the point? The whole point of modern prisons is rehabilitation, which they fail miserably at but I digress, so why would a prisoner who is spending the rest of their life behind bars be made fit for living in society. Just kill them, and then feed their flesh to the poor.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 07:37 PM       
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Colonel do you know what his brother was pulled over for in the first place?
Driving the wrong way down a one way street.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 07:48 PM       
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So is he caught up in appeals, or just waiting for his turn to be executed?
Appeals. Mostly initiated from people who are death penalty opponents, who know nothing about the case. Stupidly, they're arguing his innocence and/or the unfairness of the trial, when it is obvious to anyone who experienced the events as they happened that he shot Officer Faulkner. As for the fairness, neither he nor his brother testified at trial. That tells you all you need to know.

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So you think they should have killed him sooner -- if they were going to kill him?
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i won't be positive until you answer my questions, but it seems like your frustration has more to do with the way it was handled, or the system, and other periphery issues than the actual killing of people for being convicted of committing fucked up shit.
You got it, bro'. There's way too much leniency built into the system. If you're going to have capital punishment for crimes, (as a deterrent?) then it makes no sense for people like Mumia to hang around manipulating people (and the system) because it gives the law no teeth.

If we're not going to change the system, then we should outlaw capital punishment. Period.
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If the death penalty was reinstated in states where its banned, it would obviously have to be streamlined.
streamlining = more not guilty people getting killed
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 08:22 PM       
I don't want the media to be involved anymore. Take them out to a field and shoot them.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 09:27 PM       
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If you're going to have capital punishment for crimes, (as a deterrent?) then it makes no sense for people like Mumia to hang around manipulating people (and the system) because it gives the law no teeth.
I think the reason we have capital punishment isnt so much as a deterrent. We do it because the people who are supposed to get it deserve no better.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 09:49 PM       
But that was initially supposed to be the reason Capital Punishment existed in the first place ... and was listed as one of the reasons it was "brought back from the dead".

That was a long time ago, and I concede that I may be misremembering events.
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Old Aug 28th, 2009, 11:53 PM       
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Yeah, but I'm the Leader, see. I'm the one doing the killing. It comes with the name.
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Old Aug 29th, 2009, 11:10 AM       
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I don't want the media to be involved anymore. Take them out to a field and shoot them.
Ok, that made me laugh.

So which country has the most executions a year? Is it still China? Of course it is, and you are going to need to work a lot faster than THAT, America.
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Old Aug 29th, 2009, 11:16 AM       
Do N. Korea gulag deaths count as executions?
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Old Aug 29th, 2009, 11:55 AM       
Nah. T would be one of those charismatic serial killers that the women line up for. He would get to many conjugal visits.
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