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Old Jul 2nd, 2003, 10:52 PM       
No, You have no right to your own opinion because Wreck has an opinion

Linkin park=POWER CHORDS. Want to say their music is good? POWER CHORDS. And when they aren't playing power chords, their fucking picking sucks. They have an occasional song that has decent work on it(picking wise, they don't play shit but powercords), but it's nothing spectacular, there's 5 smillion other bands out there with the same ability or more.

lol. it cracks me up to think people think their guitarist is a guitarist it looks like he barely even has a year of experience.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2003, 11:03 PM       
Now he's going to ask you why bands have to have talent to sound good
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Old Jul 2nd, 2003, 11:13 PM       
They don't, I would rather listen to the thousands of bands that sound exactly the same because they all used GUITAR FOR DUMMIES to write their songs.
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Old Jul 3rd, 2003, 01:57 AM       
That's just one instrument out of the whole band. It really amuses me how ass backwards people can get in their mentality for searching for "good" music. I agree, the guitar player just uses easy ass stuff. If you want to hear talented guitar, listen to someone else. However, power chords are still good, and mixed in with the other elements they have i think it is a fresh, positive angle on the typically fuckign crap rock/rap/industrial blend genre. I don't like the rap very much, but at least it isn't too annoying. it's kinda catchy sometimes. I liek the main vox, i like the composition, i like the production and i applaud the diversity out of such a pop album.
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Old Jul 3rd, 2003, 04:44 AM       
That's the thing, they don't have anything else. Just power chords, and "Open Roots".
The drummer is anything but good. And if they even HAVE a bassist I'm sure they aren't fantastic, go look at some tabs.

Just remember, the thread was entitled, "Why do people hate lincoln park", so don't take things so personally.
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Old Jul 3rd, 2003, 02:33 PM       
I am not taking it personally. I am doing a little thing called "critical thinking".

Last time i listened to LP i noticed they don't even have guitar on a lot of songs. Nor drums being played by a drummer. A LOT of their songs are almost completely programmed. So there is another element for you. The whole "dj" element i think is kinda lame since he just scratches, but the programming is good. They have a bamboo flute in one of their tracks. Thats cool! It's not just a gutiar player and a bassist and a drummer and a singer. Majority of the music is programming like an electronic act. Then they play over it with whatever they want. In light of this i am not surprised that the guitar player isn't the greatest.
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Old Jul 3rd, 2003, 08:53 PM       
I bet the guy doesn't even scream good, it's probably distortion. And programmed music... you ask why we hate?
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Old Jul 3rd, 2003, 11:52 PM       
Didn't we already have this thread twice over already?

I guess I'm going to turn my back on this and let it be ignored. Sorry.


Edit: This is not a new thread, it's an old thread coming back
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 01:39 AM       
"I bet the guy doesn't even scream good"
bet? listen and find out.

"And programmed music... you ask why we hate?"
yeah i ask. Lots of good music is composed on computers. do you really dare to say that all programmed music is crap?
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 02:08 AM       
You're part of their Street Team, aren't you?
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 02:14 AM       
LP RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 05:51 PM       
I hate LP because they SUCK!!!
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 05:58 PM       
"yeah i ask. Lots of good music is composed on computers. do you really dare to say that all programmed music is crap?"

Umm, yes. That's exactly what I say. I bet during concerts he lip syncs. And this is the first LP hate I've been involved in..
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 10:11 PM       
man you're a moron. You should get your head out of your ass and explore some different genres of music. There are so many good electronic acts that are mostly programmed except for a keyboard and vocals and maybe a moog or theremin.
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 10:35 PM       
What makes a moog not a keyboard?
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Old Jul 4th, 2003, 11:15 PM       
A moog is a keyboard last time I checked :/
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 05:07 AM       
Feeling very passionately about the talent of Linkin Park myself, I thought I would throw in my two cents, wanted or not. I do not like Linkin Park. I don't really have a particular reason for it. I just really, really don't like them. But however, I want to talk about some of the complaints people are throwing against LP. First of all, to the person who says that Linkin Park just uses power chords: hundreds of great songs (and albums for that matter) were constructed mainly out of power chords. Take Nirvana for example. Most Nirvana songs are four power chords played over and over again. Don't even claim that you dislike Nirvana (if you do, I will be forced to rip out your intestines and force-feed them to your mother while she's being anally raped by my trained monkey). To the person who says that all programmed music is crap: I'm just going to say Radiohead and leave it at that. Well, on second thought, you probably don't like Radiohead. Oh well, discard that point. Shit. My argument's kind of fucked now. Oh well. Music is a subjective thing, and different people will always like different music. I just don't like Linkin Park. I happen to like the Pixies. And Primus. And Ween. And Mr. Bungle. And Pavement. And Sonic Youth. And the Smashing Pumpkins. And Nirvana. And Jane's Addiction.
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 07:42 AM       
I never liked linkin park to begin with, but what made me hate them was when I read an atricle on the guitarist. It was just like any other interview, but then he said something like "I try to make the sickest, most disgusting guitiar riffs as possible", that's pretty much when I started to hate them.

"Don't even claim that you dislike Nirvana."

I don't hate Nirvana more than Linkin Park, but then again that's not saying much...
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 04:07 PM       
good contribution crash...

and i said a keyboard and vox and maybe a moog or a theremin.

so i meant in addition to a keyboard and vocals. but also, moog makes other stuff too, moog even makes theremins.
but anyone who knows about keyboards knows there is a big difference between analog and digital. hence moogs and their ilk are much different than a synth or something.
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 04:49 PM       
Nirvanna sucks, dude. They're just one huge rip off of all the cool underground stuff that came around in the 80's. Kurt played power chords because he sucked, and he knew this. And that's why he killed himself, because his band wasn't as cool as The Melvins. Or something.
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 04:50 PM       
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Feeling very passionately about the talent of Linkin Park myself, I thought I would throw in my two cents, wanted or not. I do not like Linkin Park. I don't really have a particular reason for it. I just really, really don't like them. But however, I want to talk about some of the complaints people are throwing against LP. First of all, to the person who says that Linkin Park just uses power chords: hundreds of great songs (and albums for that matter) were constructed mainly out of power chords. Take Nirvana for example. Most Nirvana songs are four power chords played over and over again. Don't even claim that you dislike Nirvana (if you do, I will be forced to rip out your intestines and force-feed them to your mother while she's being anally raped by my trained monkey). To the person who says that all programmed music is crap: I'm just going to say Radiohead and leave it at that. Well, on second thought, you probably don't like Radiohead. Oh well, discard that point. Shit. My argument's kind of fucked now. Oh well. Music is a subjective thing, and different people will always like different music. I just don't like Linkin Park. I happen to like the Pixies. And Primus. And Ween. And Mr. Bungle. And Pavement. And Sonic Youth. And the Smashing Pumpkins. And Nirvana. And Jane's Addiction.
All of those bands suck. Especially Nirvana. Thus, your point is void.

I hate LP because they're posers, not because of the music itself. The band acts all hardcore, but they're music is really, really weak and light. A kid with a chello could make more hardcore music than they have.
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 04:57 PM       
YOU suck. And on a side note, it's cello, you fucking retard.
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Old Jul 6th, 2003, 10:53 PM       
"Take Nirvana for example. Most Nirvana songs are four power chords played over and over again."

Most Nirvana songs are Single-picked, that is what Nirvana is danceable for. And yes, they do use alot of powerchords, part of the reason most people use Nirvana to learn to play. Also part of the reason they suck.
It just so happened we were discussing their TALENT and SKILL. TALENT and SKILL. TALENT and SKILL. I think repeating myself is necessary in cases like these, where playing powerchords is considered some kind of an ungodly skill few men are blessed with.
Radiohead is electronic. That's great. There are a few differences between Radiohead and Linkin Park though, namely being the Vocalist has TALENT and SKILL. Also he doesn't sing about completely lame ass crap that some stupid ass Writer probably hired by the producing company probably made up thinking how to make horny 12 year old girls wearing their first training bra to feel safe and happy and shed a few tears while staring at a picture of the lead singer when listening to Linkin Park.

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Old Jul 6th, 2003, 11:02 PM       
"There are so many good electronic acts that are mostly programmed except for a keyboard and vocals and maybe a moog or theremin."
Like Britney Spears, and the Backstreet Boys. I should diversly trot upon the Genre, for sure. But I do have to admit, I love Supposive metal that is completely programmed and never even uses a guitar, bass, or drums, that is the best metal ever. I completely agree with you. Even Rock is Good when almost all of the songs are programmed, such metal rocking jazz dancing skills. How hardcore.


"man you're a moron. You should get your head out of your ass and explore some different genres of music"

You should get your head out of your ass and stop thinking that just because you like something means everyone else should. All I was doing was discussing their skill and talent, what the fuck is your problem? Not taking this personal? Do you sit up late at night jacking off to portraits of the band or something?
I haven't even sunk so low as to say shit like, "I hate linkin park cause they are posers", so you must be taking your lack of musical taste(talent wise) as an insult to your person.

"A kid with a chello could make more hardcore music than they have."
Alamaailman Vasarat is Cello Music, so is Rasputina. Alamaailman has some straight up Death metal Cello songs, it's crazy. Rasputina is considered, "Gothic Music".
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Old Jul 7th, 2003, 02:38 AM       
My whole goal in this thread is to dispel all the BS reasons people have for "hating" LP. If someone just doesn't like them i am fine with that. If someone is specifically into a certain kind of music, i am fine with that too. However, i wanna challenge the idea that music has to be hard to play to be good and that all pop is bad by definition. The only reason i started posting in this one is how immediately everyone just laughed. I wanna challenge that because i think a lot of people haven't given them a chance just because they are pop.
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