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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 11:28 AM       
I don't know max, did your enjoy the fact that your daddy was able to put your ass through school becuase the Nazi's paid him his 30 pieces to sell out Anne Frank and her hiding place?

I figure that is where you get your religion-hatred and your uppityness from.
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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 11:37 AM       
A.) I don't hate religion. I think you're a shitty version of a Catholic. There's a world of difference between those two thoughts. I actually have a great deal of respect for religion, though nothing but contempt for folks who think they can use it to hide what horrible people they are, like a gym towel draped over your prong. Did you make a clean confession about your web site, your Jew Bashing and your general repulsiveness before your last communion? 'Cause I'd hate to see you get hit by truck and go straight to hell.

B.) My entire body went to college. If only your ass is going to school now, that could explain a lot of the shit you talk.

C.) Did you know I'm Jewish? You can make fun of that if you want, it'll be easy. Especially if you don't mind making yourself look like a horrible bag of shit, which it's clear you don't.
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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 11:44 AM       
A.) I could give a fuck less about what you think. You defend the fact you are Jewish when you don't even practice it. It is just something for you to cry about if you ever get "discriminated" against. So please, don't tell me how to be a good Catholic and I'll continue to mock you for dismissing your faith and heritage for the the percieved allmighty beliefs that only serve to destroy the people that you "indentify" with.

B) I bet you went to college. Your adversion to facts and figures and common sence would indicate you were educated in a government school system.

C) Yes, you are Jewish. You are not worth the time to make up a better insult. And it must bother you because you bring it up every time. I also believe that you would have sold out Christ for 30 pieces of silver if He were here today.
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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 12:10 PM       
"I could give a fuck less about what you think."
-Calamity ClamBake

Translation? "Oh! Oh! I don't CARE!! Haven't I thaid it and thaid it?! WHY doethn't ANYONE beLIEVE me?!?"

"You defend the fact you are Jewish when you don't even practice it."
-Thtupid ol' Vinth

I don't need to practice it. I have it down. I was born with it. See, my Mother is Jewish, so I am. That's all it takes. Know how I know? It says so in the bible. Hard as this may be for you to concieve of, Jews concider themsleves a culture, a people, several distinct historical bloodlines and a religion. I don't need to defend it. It simply is. Defend your own religion, porno boy.

I went to two colleges, both private. Reed in Portalnd Ore. and Emerson in Boston. How 'bout that? Wrong again.

"You are not worth the time to make up a better insult."
-Catholic Thamurai

Translation? "I'm a lathy, thtupid bag of thit. Pluth, I'm about aath funny ath thcabies."

"I also believe that you would have sold out Christ for 30 pieces of silver if He were here today."
-Father O'clambake

Do you? Cause I was just picturing you gambling for his clothes.
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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 03:06 PM       
I personally think religion isn't a race that you're born with, but a lifestyle or belief
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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 03:23 PM       
Judaism is a religion a culture, and an ethnicity, or a few ethnicities to be more precise. We've been around while. The religion has much to recomend it, although I'm put off by it's exlusionary nature, ie. we are God's chosen, you are not. The culture is my historical background, and like my ethnicity isn't something I could escape even if I wanted to, which I don't.
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Old Jun 12th, 2003, 03:32 PM       
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C) Yes, you are Jewish. You are not worth the time to make up a better insult.
Here's a "shocking" bit of "truth" for you, Vince:

Calling someone Jewish is not an insult.

Particularly if the person you're "insulting" actually is Jewish. But there again, you could call me Jewish if you want, and I won't be insulted at all.
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Old Jun 19th, 2003, 04:16 PM       
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Iraq is half the size of South Africa, whose banned weapons were found instantly when apartheid ended.
This isn't completely accurate, but that aside.....

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0618-09.htm

Published on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 by the Seattle Weekly

Impeachable Offense
by Geov Parrish

FINALLY, AND FAR too late, national media are discovering that the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq was a combination of willfully gross exaggerations and flat-out lies. For weeks, various recently leaked or released documents have confirmed that there has never been much, if any, evidence in American and British files that even plausibly pointed to an Iraqi threat of either nuclear or other banned weapons, or Iraqi links to Al Qaeda. Intelligence analysts in both governments did not believe such threats existed.

The new revelations, combined with an utter lack of post-invasion evidence (weather-balloon trailers notwithstanding) that such claims were ever true, are an enormous political scandal in Britain. However, their content merely confirms what opponents of the proposed invasion claimed since last summer: that most of the endless variety of Bush assertions "proving" either Iraqi WMDs or links to Al Qaeda were, on their face, preposterous.

This wasn't simply an abstract policy debate; it was a matter of the Bush administration's swearing to Congress, America, and the world that the threat to U.S. security—the sole legal justification for invading, conquering, and occupying Iraq—was based on evidence that did not, in fact, exist. The Bush administration made such assertions repeatedly, for more than half a year, and it continues to do so. Such assertions are not simply a typically appalling campaign of Bush administration lies. They are an impeachable offense.

For months, various, mostly liberal and progressive critics of Bush have been whipping up impeachment calls. Such calls have been delusional, boiling down, essentially, to the fact that Bush's critics hate a number of his policies. There were no pending or existing corruption indictments; no evidence of criminal wrongdoing; and no conceivable political route by which the votes for impeachment could be mustered. It was a nonstarter.

Until now.

SHOULD THE EVIDENCE hold up—and it will—the Bush administration's lies constitute either an unwitting or witting effort to put American soldiers in harm's way, guaranteeing the deaths of some. America's military was deployed for reasons Bush and his entire foreign-policy apparatus either knew or should have known were false.

They did so to launch a war whose unprovoked nature was a sharp departure from international law and norms. Bush claimed the legal authority for his invasion was last October's congressional vote. On the eve of that vote, in a major speech aimed at Congress, Bush claimed satellite photos gave irrefutable evidence that Iraq was rebuilding its nuclear-weapons program. He intoned, mere days after his intelligence agencies put the date at 2010, that Iraq would be able to use such weapons within a year. "Facing clear evidence of peril," Bush told Congress, America, and the world, "we cannot wait for the final proof that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."

Plenty of the administration's own experts had told the White House this was nonsense. From August to March, Bush and his team insisted, first, that they had evidence which actually did not exist. Then they presented evidence that was either long out-dated or simply invented. In doing so, Bush and his top officials caused the unnecessary deaths of a lot of U.S. soldiers.

The outrage thus far is coming from the media and from the British example. With a few honorable exceptions, such as Sen. Robert Byrd and Rep. Dennis Kucinich, it is not coming from congressional Democrats. Given Democratic spinelessness, no attack on the fitness of George W. Bush and his band of neocon zealots can take hold without widespread public anger, including that of independents and at least some Republicans.

The use of duplicity to lead soldiers to their graves should inspire exactly such outrage. The unprovoked invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq should never have happened. Instead, the White House claimed that Bush spent several months agonizing over whether to launch an invasion, one he had already approved.

BEFORE AND AFTER his secret decision, his administration's claims were largely false. Bush used those claims to sacrifice the lives of American soldiers—along with other coalition soldiers and countless Iraqis, soldier and civilian alike. And he continues his lies.

Iraq is half the size of South Africa, whose banned weapons were found instantly when apartheid ended. Iraq is not, as Bush protests, "a big country"; in two months, American soldiers have exhausted search possibilities. Nor have Iraq's weapons fled the country. Or been found. They have not existed for years. But soldiers died because George W. Bush said they did.

For this egregious abuse of his oath of office, he should be impeached.

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