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Old Dec 7th, 2004, 05:17 PM        Martin Luther
Write now I should be righting an essay on Luther's attack on Erasmus. Having read so much of his banter, the following have arisen in my mind:

How do Protestants live with the fact that their founder was devoted to Mary and the Eucharist?

How do Protestants live with the fact that their founder was an insufferably pompous asshole?

How do Protestants live with the fact that their founder believed that God created man to sin without free will just so that he could throw them into hell?

How could Luther be described as anything but a total dumbass with a big vocabulary?

I'm not trying to be all like "CATHOLICISM YAY, GO POPE!!@", but really, what the fuck?
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Old Dec 7th, 2004, 05:21 PM       
CATHOLICISM YAY, GO POPE!!@
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Old Dec 7th, 2004, 06:22 PM       
Something makes me doubt that Catholicism is completely free of that kind of stuff.

And don't forget that an awful lot of flavors of Protestantism have departed quite a bit from Luther's teaching.
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Old Dec 7th, 2004, 06:34 PM       
Protestants don't deal or live with it. They suffer because of these ideas all their lives and are happy because of it.
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Old Dec 7th, 2004, 08:39 PM       
If they could find hair shirts, they'd wear them. Protestants still think they are being oppressed when they themselves are the oppressors.
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Old Dec 8th, 2004, 01:31 AM       
I used to be Lutheran, actually, only because my parents were. It seemed fine to me. None of that "Feast of Saint Bullshit" nonsense, we didn't believe that our wine and bread magically transformed into something much ickier, and in general, it was much more lax than Cathoholics want Church to be.

Seems to me that it is Cathoholics that make religion a burden to it's followers with all that "One true faith" garbage.
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Old Dec 8th, 2004, 05:57 AM       
Well, I for one know many Protestants who are ALWAYS coming over for coffee and then breaking down and crying and saying "I just don't know how much longer I can go on being a Protestant! I mean, didn't you hear about Martin Luther?"
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Old Dec 8th, 2004, 09:51 AM        Re: Martin Luther
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Write now I should be righting an essay on Luther's attack on Erasmus. Having read so much of his banter, the following have arisen in my mind:

How do Protestants live with the fact that their founder was devoted to Mary and the Eucharist?

How do Protestants live with the fact that their founder was an insufferably pompous asshole?

How do Protestants live with the fact that their founder believed that God created man to sin without free will just so that he could throw them into hell?

How could Luther be described as anything but a total dumbass with a big vocabulary?

I'm not trying to be all like "CATHOLICISM YAY, GO POPE!!@", but really, what the fuck?
You're talking about Protestants. These are the same folks who send their kids' college money to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

As for the "insufferably pompous asshole" part, I think most religious leaders are. You're talking about people who think they have a direct line to God.
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Old Dec 8th, 2004, 10:20 AM       
My old British history prof said that Martin Luther also most likely suffered from chronic constipation.

That probably explains a lot...
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Old Dec 8th, 2004, 11:41 AM       
Yeah he had tons of bowel problems. Thomas Moore once wrote an essay to Luther or concerning him and constantly made shit references because of his bowel problems.
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Old Dec 8th, 2004, 12:17 PM       
I think the majority of churchgoers of protestant denominations in America couldn't even tell you who the fuck Luther was.
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 09:17 PM       
Missouri synod in the Hizzous, beeyotch.
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mburbank~ Yes, okay, fine, I do know what you meant, but why is it not possible for you to get through a paragraph without making all the words cry?

How can someone who obviously thinks so much of their ideas have so little respect for expressing them? How can someone who so yearns to be taken seriously make so little effort?!
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 11:00 PM       
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I think the majority of churchgoers of protestant denominations in America couldn't even tell you who the fuck Luther was.
Not even the Lutherans? :/
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 01:56 AM       
He used an earthquake machine to defeat the Catholics.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 09:03 AM       
He invented the Christmas tree and never, ever took a crap.
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Old Jan 1st, 2005, 04:08 PM       
Not my church. I used to be a luthern in the sense that I was made to go to church and learn about him and I could just about tell you his whole life story from burning the popes letter to when he died
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Old Jan 3rd, 2005, 01:30 PM       
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I think the majority of churchgoers of protestant denominations in America couldn't even tell you who the fuck Luther was.
Not even the Lutherans? :/
I don't have any census data or anything, but if Lutherans make up the majority of Protestants in America then I'll cheerily rescend my remark.

Personally, having a primarily Baptist and Church of Christ flavored youth, I was only ever told of Martin Luther in History classes.
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