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Old Apr 19th, 2003, 10:59 AM        Tim Robbins speaks to the National Press Club (long)
A bit of a lengthy read, but worth it. An excellent speech.
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'A Chill Wind is Blowing in This Nation...'

Transcript of the speech given by actor Tim Robbins to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on April 15, 2003.



TIM ROBBINS: Thank you. And thanks for the invitation. I had originally been asked here to talk about the war and our current political situation, but I have instead chosen to hijack this opportunity and talk about baseball and show business. (Laughter.) Just kidding. Sort of.

I can't tell you how moved I have been at the overwhelming support I have received from newspapers throughout the country in these past few days. I hold no illusions that all of these journalists agree with me on my views against the war. While the journalists' outrage at the cancellation of our appearance in Cooperstown is not about my views, it is about my right to express these views. I am extremely grateful that there are those of you out there still with a fierce belief in constitutionally guaranteed rights. We need you, the press, now more than ever. This is a crucial moment for all of us.

For all of the ugliness and tragedy of 9-11, there was a brief period afterward where I held a great hope, in the midst of the tears and shocked faces of New Yorkers, in the midst of the lethal air we breathed as we worked at Ground Zero, in the midst of my children's terror at being so close to this crime against humanity, in the midst of all this, I held on to a glimmer of hope in the naive assumption that something good could come out of it.


Actor Tim Robbins speaks about his anti-war stance at the National Press Club in Washington Tuesday, April 15, 2003. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

I imagined our leaders seizing upon this moment of unity in America, this moment when no one wanted to talk about Democrat versus Republican, white versus black, or any of the other ridiculous divisions that dominate our public discourse. I imagined our leaders going on television telling the citizens that although we all want to be at Ground Zero, we can't, but there is work that is needed to be done all over America. Our help is needed at community centers to tutor children, to teach them to read. Our work is needed at old-age homes to visit the lonely and infirmed; in gutted neighborhoods to rebuild housing and clean up parks, and convert abandoned lots to baseball fields. I imagined leadership that would take this incredible energy, this generosity of spirit and create a new unity in America born out of the chaos and tragedy of 9/11, a new unity that would send a message to terrorists everywhere: If you attack us, we will become stronger, cleaner, better educated, and more unified. You will strengthen our commitment to justice and democracy by your inhumane attacks on us. Like a Phoenix out of the fire, we will be reborn.

And then came the speech: You are either with us or against us. And the bombing began. And the old paradigm was restored as our leader encouraged us to show our patriotism by shopping and by volunteering to join groups that would turn in their neighbor for any suspicious behavior.

In the 19 months since 9-11, we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred. Basic inalienable rights, due process, the sanctity of the home have been quickly compromised in a climate of fear. A unified American public has grown bitterly divided, and a world population that had profound sympathy and support for us has grown contemptuous and distrustful, viewing us as we once viewed the Soviet Union, as a rogue state.

This past weekend, Susan and I and the three kids went to Florida for a family reunion of sorts. Amidst the alcohol and the dancing, sugar-rushing children, there was, of course, talk of the war. And the most frightening thing about the weekend was the amount of times we were thanked for speaking out against the war because that individual speaking thought it unsafe to do so in their own community, in their own life. Keep talking, they said; I haven't been able to open my mouth.

A relative tells me that a history teacher tells his 11-year-old son, my nephew, that Susan Sarandon is endangering the troops by her opposition to the war. Another teacher in a different school asks our niece if we are coming to the school play. They're not welcome here, said the molder of young minds.

Another relative tells me of a school board decision to cancel a civics event that was proposing to have a moment of silence for those who have died in the war because the students were including dead Iraqi civilians in their silent prayer.

A teacher in another nephew's school is fired for wearing a T- shirt with a peace sign on it. And a friend of the family tells of listening to the radio down South as the talk radio host calls for the murder of a prominent anti-war activist. Death threats have appeared on other prominent anti-war activists' doorsteps for their views. Relatives of ours have received threatening e-mails and phone calls. And my 13-year-old boy, who has done nothing to anybody, has recently been embarrassed and humiliated by a sadistic creep who writes -- or, rather, scratches his column with his fingernails in dirt.

Susan and I have been listed as traitors, as supporters of Saddam, and various other epithets by the Aussie gossip rags masquerading as newspapers, and by their fair and balanced electronic media cousins, 19th Century Fox. (Laughter.) Apologies to Gore Vidal. (Applause.)

Two weeks ago, the United Way canceled Susan's appearance at a conference on women's leadership. And both of us last week were told that both we and the First Amendment were not welcome at the Baseball Hall of Fame.

A famous middle-aged rock-and-roller called me last week to thank me for speaking out against the war, only to go on to tell me that he could not speak himself because he fears repercussions from Clear Channel. "They promote our concert appearances," he said. "They own most of the stations that play our music. I can't come out against this war."

And here in Washington, Helen Thomas finds herself banished to the back of the room and uncalled on after asking Ari Fleischer whether our showing prisoners of war at Guantanamo Bay on television violated the Geneva Convention.

A chill wind is blowing in this nation. A message is being sent through the White House and its allies in talk radio and Clear Channel and Cooperstown. If you oppose this administration, there can and will be ramifications.

Every day, the air waves are filled with warnings, veiled and unveiled threats, spewed invective and hatred directed at any voice of dissent. And the public, like so many relatives and friends that I saw this weekend, sit in mute opposition and fear.

I am sick of hearing about Hollywood being against this war. Hollywood's heavy hitters, the real power brokers and cover-of-the- magazine stars, have been largely silent on this issue. But Hollywood, the concept, has always been a popular target.

I remember when the Columbine High School shootings happened. President Clinton criticized Hollywood for contributing to this terrible tragedy -- this, as we were dropping bombs over Kosovo. Could the violent actions of our leaders contribute somewhat to the violent fantasies of our teenagers? Or is it all just Hollywood and rock and roll?

I remember reading at the time that one of the shooters had tried to enlist to fight the real war a week before he acted out his war in real life at Columbine. I talked about this in the press at the time. And curiously, no one accused me of being unpatriotic for criticizing Clinton. In fact, the same radio patriots that call us traitors today engaged in daily personal attacks on their president during the war in Kosovo.

Today, prominent politicians who have decried violence in movies -- the "Blame Hollywooders," if you will -- recently voted to give our current president the power to unleash real violence in our current war. They want us to stop the fictional violence but are okay with the real kind.

And these same people that tolerate the real violence of war don't want to see the result of it on the nightly news. Unlike the rest of the world, our news coverage of this war remains sanitized, without a glimpse of the blood and gore inflicted upon our soldiers or the women and children in Iraq. Violence as a concept, an abstraction -- it's very strange.

As we applaud the hard-edged realism of the opening battle scene of "Saving Private Ryan," we cringe at the thought of seeing the same on the nightly news. We are told it would be pornographic. We want no part of reality in real life. We demand that war be painstakingly realized on the screen, but that war remain imagined and conceptualized in real life.

And in the midst of all this madness, where is the political opposition? Where have all the Democrats gone? Long time passing, long time ago. (Applause.) With apologies to Robert Byrd, I have to say it is pretty embarrassing to live in a country where a five-foot- one comedian has more guts than most politicians. (Applause.) We need leaders, not pragmatists that cower before the spin zones of former entertainment journalists. We need leaders who can understand the Constitution, congressman who don't in a moment of fear abdicate their most important power, the right to declare war to the executive branch. And, please, can we please stop the congressional sing-a- longs? (Laughter.)

In this time when a citizenry applauds the liberation of a country as it lives in fear of its own freedom, when an administration official releases an attack ad questioning the patriotism of a legless Vietnam veteran running for Congress, when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce. And it doesn't take much to shift the tide. My 11-year-old nephew, mentioned earlier, a shy kid who never talks in class, stood up to his history teacher who was questioning Susan's patriotism. "That's my aunt you're talking about. Stop it." And the stunned teacher backtracks and began stammering compliments in embarrassment.

Sportswriters across the country reacted with such overwhelming fury at the Hall of Fame that the president of the Hall admitted he made a mistake and Major League Baseball disavowed any connection to the actions of the Hall's president. A bully can be stopped, and so can a mob. It takes one person with the courage and a resolute voice.

The journalists in this country can battle back at those who would rewrite our Constitution in Patriot Act II, or "Patriot, The Sequel," as we would call it in Hollywood. We are counting on you to star in that movie. Journalists can insist that they not be used as publicists by this administration. (Applause.) The next White House correspondent to be called on by Ari Fleischer should defer their question to the back of the room, to the banished journalist du jour. (Applause.) And any instance of intimidation to free speech should be battled against. Any acquiescence or intimidation at this point will only lead to more intimidation. You have, whether you like it or not, an awesome responsibility and an awesome power: the fate of discourse, the health of this republic is in your hands, whether you write on the left or the right. This is your time, and the destiny you have chosen.

We lay the continuance of our democracy on your desks, and count on your pens to be mightier. Millions are watching and waiting in mute frustration and hope - hoping for someone to defend the spirit and letter of our Constitution, and to defy the intimidation that is visited upon us daily in the name of national security and warped notions of patriotism.

Our ability to disagree, and our inherent right to question our leaders and criticize their actions define who we are. To allow those rights to be taken away out of fear, to punish people for their beliefs, to limit access in the news media to differing opinions is to acknowledge our democracy's defeat. These are challenging times. There is a wave of hate that seeks to divide us -- right and left, pro-war and anti-war. In the name of my 11-year-old nephew, and all the other unreported victims of this hostile and unproductive environment of fear, let us try to find our common ground as a nation. Let us celebrate this grand and glorious experiment that has survived for 227 years. To do so we must honor and fight vigilantly for the things that unite us -- like freedom, the First Amendment and, yes, baseball. (Applause.)
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Old Apr 19th, 2003, 11:16 AM       
He obviously has the right to say whatever he wants but with those words come reponsiblity and repercussions.

I think that's fair.
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Old Apr 19th, 2003, 12:07 PM       
That IS fair, unless the repurcussions you refer to come from a spiteful administration.

That was an excellent article, Spadowsky. Thanks for posting it. I think there are a lot of good points in there for ALL of us to think about, regardless of where we stand on this war or the President.
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Old Apr 19th, 2003, 12:35 PM       
Even if it was coming from a spiteful administration I would see nothing wrong with it......It's not like he's been targeted for assassination.

.....but in any case, it's not.

It's the American people who ate not going to but up with it. ..... .and I'm glad to say that there in probably nothing that I could learn from Tim Robbins other than how to be a bad actor.
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Old Apr 19th, 2003, 01:29 PM       
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and I'm glad to say that there in probably nothing that I could learn from Tim Robbins other than how to be a bad actor.
Translation: "I didn't read the speech."
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Old Apr 19th, 2003, 03:12 PM       
Exactly. And if he DID read the speech and didn't learn anything from it, that just bespeaks the gross level of ignorance that Ronnie proudly clings to.

Oh, and Ronnie...what do you suppose the repurcussions of a spiteful administration might be? Would they involve something not unlike locking him up and throwing away the key? Or would they just threaten the future of his career?
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 11:27 AM       
I read it. . .Personally, I like Tim Robbins, and what he has said about questioning Halliburton makes sense. I don't even mind that he's against the war, but I'm going to back Ronnie up for a minute.

Yes, the guy worked for Reagan who dismissed Robbins. He seems to be a bit fanatical. But it is his organization, and his perogative. Robbins doesn't have a right to be there, he has simply been an invited guest for many years. He ought to swallow it, show some dignity, and simply accept it. His unecessary bitching is unseemly.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 11:57 AM       
Tim, actions have conquences. As long as your rights are not infringed upon by the govt or you are not violated criminally, the public can do whatever the hell it wants in regards to your person. If they don't want to support your movies, they wont go. If they dont like what you are saying, they will tell you to shut the fuck up. It is the way the world works.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 11:58 AM       
Good thing there are plenty of people who like what he's saying, huh?
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 12:01 PM       
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Even if it was coming from a spiteful administration I would see nothing wrong with it......It's not like he's been targeted for assassination.
Hold on Ronnie, aren't you the one who always whines about free speech? Wouldn't that be the government interfering with that right?

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Hmm, I think Robbins has a point here.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 02:31 PM       
Id like to see where Robbins was bashing Clinton.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 02:36 PM       
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Id like to see where Robbins was bashing Clinton.
Well, seeing as Clinton has been out of office for years now, its going to much more difficult to find information about Robbin's criticizing him, but I'm sure you'll come up with something if you looked hard enough.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 03:02 PM       
When celebs speak out about politics, it is fine by me. We all have that right and you do not give it up once you become famous. But be realistic about your comprehension of the subject matter.

People need to take what celebs say with a grain of salt. Let's be honest by acknowledging that a lot of these people are famous because they have nice tits or look good in a pair or shorts. They are not asked to be geo-political stratageists. Let's get another fact out there as well: The fact that these people are surrounded in a shield of infallibility. If they say something, it should be taken as the gold standard. At least in their world, that is how it works.

I take guys like Ted Nugent or R Lee Emery a hell of a lot more seriously than I do someone like Tim Robbins. Reason being is not because they agree with what I say, it’s because that they have shown and proven they know something about how the world works. Same way with musicians. I don't care of a musician disagrees or agrees with me. He is going through the ringer when he spouts off about something serious. Nugent did, and I found out and saw he wasn't full of shit.

Celebs need to realize that just because you can say something, it doesnt mean you should take the chance. Especially if you don't really have the full grasp of the situation and what is going on.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 03:12 PM        /
Haven't read the article yet. Want to when I can sit and enjoy it....

However Zeb - That should go for polititians as well. If Bush and any clue what was going on in the world he might not have spouted of and expect his words to be taken as gospel.
Jus' a-cuz he say it don' make it real and such.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 03:27 PM       
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Reason being is not because they agree with what I say, it’s because that they have shown and proven they know something about how the world works
Robbins seems very well informed. I take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt, but so far Robbins has offered a very articulate and clear statement.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 03:59 PM       
Tim Robbins criticized Clinton for bombing Kosovo while at the same time spouting off about the evils of violence in Hollywood. Classic example of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing.

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Reason being is not because they agree with what I say, it’s because that they have shown and proven they know something about how the world works.
I hate to break it to you, Vince, but that's still the same thing. You see the world in the same way that they do. If this isn't the case, please give an example of where you have disagreed with one of the celebrities you named.
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Old Apr 20th, 2003, 08:45 PM        Nasty Shit
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Tim Robbins criticized Clinton for bombing Kosovo while at the same time spouting off about the evils of violence in Hollywood. Classic example of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing.
- Sometimes its best for the right hand to not know what the left hand hand is doing.

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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 11:47 AM       
i don't have time to read everything i want to..
there's often an audio source somewhere.. npr has many press club meetings:
http://www.npr.org/programs/npc/2003....trobbins.html

Tim is far more sane and knowledgeable that gwb, as is most anybody so that's not much of a compliment. i found his speech encouraging for its a breath of fresh air to hear sanity in this country.

Why is it just fine for actors to Support this fascist regime, but its not ok for them to criticize??
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Old Apr 22nd, 2003, 12:42 PM       
"If they dont like what you are saying, they will tell you to shut the fuck up. It is the way the world works."
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Vince, shut the fuck up.
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