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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:26 PM       
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:31 PM       
yes. chronic alcoholics quit drinking because they want to die.

you win so you can hush up now.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:39 PM       
NOW LET'S HOLD HANDS IN A CIRCLE AND ADMIT THAT WE FAIL IN LIFE WITHOUGHT ACCEPTING GOD!
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:43 PM       
when i had to go to these aa meetings for a while they gave me this dumb aa bible thing or something and from it i learned that pretty much no matter what you do you're an alcoholic

they explained it like if you keep alcohol in your fridge, you're an alcoholic. if you keep alcohol in the open you're an alcoholic. if you hide alcohol you're an alcoholic.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:44 PM       
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:45 PM       
Guys, I think I'm alcoholic
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:46 PM       
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:46 PM       
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when i had to go to these aa meetings for a while they gave me this dumb aa bible thing or something and from it i learned that pretty much no matter what you do you're an alcoholic

they explained it like if you keep alcohol in your fridge, you're an alcoholic. if you keep alcohol in the open you're an alcoholic. if you hide alcohol you're an alcoholic.
Don't forget that if you hang out with drinkers, they are not really your friends and you should only hang out with AA members and smoke cigarettes instead.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 03:48 PM       
if you drink only around your friends, you're an alcoholic. If you drink by yourself you're an alcoholic.

i dont remember there beings oness to cover both though ;/
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If you want what we have to offer, and are willing to make the effort to get it, then you are ready to take certain steps. These are the principles that made our recovery possible.
1. We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. We were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. We humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. We made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practise these principles in all our affairs.

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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 04:09 PM       
have you guys ever seen those symbols on t he doors of aa and na places?

it's probably magic
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 04:33 PM       
It probably has to do with trinity and jesus.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 05:24 PM       
They tried to make me go to rehab but I said

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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 10:00 PM       
Someone sent me an AA book and I'm not really sure why.

But then I opened it and there was $5 inside, so I was happy about that.

Then I wanted to get rid of the book but didn't put it out at the garage sale because I was afraid people would wonder what it was I was addicted to.

So it went in a goodwill pile with some old clothes.

The end.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 10:02 PM       
Who sent the book in the first place? Close friend or family? Are you a secretly a lush?
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 10:04 PM       
I come from a long line of alcoholics, but don't consider myself to be quite their calibre yet.

It was someone preachy who didn't really know me well, and I think it might have been directed at my ex who was a WoW addict.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 10:08 PM       
Oh... I just imagined the subsequent awkwardness that would result if a family member or friend sent it with complete earnest.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 10:09 PM       
Nope, no longer in touch with her. Yeah, my close family knows better.
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Old Nov 26th, 2008, 11:51 PM       
you should have used the $5 to buy booze
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Old Nov 27th, 2008, 06:02 AM       
And used the book as a beer-mat for all the booze
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Old Nov 28th, 2008, 05:53 AM       
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you should have used the $5 to buy booze
TOTALLY READ THAT AS YOU SHOULD HAVE USED THE $5 TO BUY BOOBS

HAH! BEST DAMN $5 I EVER SPENT! (JIGGLE JIGGLE JIGGLE)
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Old Nov 28th, 2008, 08:22 AM       
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you are using again if you still drink. hate to break it to you, but you aren't sober just because you stopped using your drug of choice.

it's like that scott weiland dude saying that he hasn't used heroin in 6+ years, but he still uses drugs to keep him off heroin.

NA saved my sister's life. i've been to a ton of meetings and i've never felt like i was in church. recovering addicts have a shit ton of good information to pass on to others (addicts and "normal" people alike) and they are totally right. you are using again. you just aren't using meth.

i'm not trying to burst your bubble. i think it's great that you aren't on meth anymore. that shit will kill you fast. just be careful about getting too confident in yourself or else you'll start making excuses as to why you can handle a bump here and there and be back on the wagon before you know it.
I knew thats where that question was going to lead. I heard all of that at NA, and some people are so dependant they need absolutes like that to pull through. I'm never going back because I know what I'll do, I know who I am. I MIGHT relapse, but blaming that on me drinking is dumb. NA makes you believe you are as powerless as possible, which in the end, makes it true. Booze is different to me, in fact I had my first drink in over a month for thanksgiving dinner with my family. I wasn't conciously trying not to drink, it just never came up.

I totally used food to replace meth, I ate tons of sugar and carbs to releive the withrawls. Like literally I would feel better after hating myself for an hour by eating a handfull of raisins. That felt way more like using than booze ever has. I know I am still using, but I'm not scared. Completely stopping everything won't make me any less on meth than I was, or make my life any better.
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Old Nov 28th, 2008, 08:24 AM       
Was AA just started as a way to shove some God down your throat?
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Old Nov 28th, 2008, 02:47 PM       
that's what i always figured, sack. or i dont know maybe only god can cure alcoholics. one rehab I went to always talked about how you need a SPIRITUAL THOUGHT OR SOMETHING AND EVERYONE HAS ONE AND IT HELPS YOU TO STAVE OFF YOUR ADDICTION or some shit and he asked me what i thought and i was all i dunno. then he was all well you have to think something so i told him tthat i think everything is negative and the world is spiraling down into shit

Supafly i think you should just do whatever you want to do and try not to fuck up
there's nothing wrong with doing drugs just don't get all caught up ;/ maybe some people can't avoid getting caught up i dont know, but it seems like that is a choice between being something and doing something ;/ everybody has some sort of addiction or hobby or whatever you want to call it so don't let people indoctrinate you into believing that you'll ever be freed from bullshit.

meth is an easy drug to get caught up in though ;o i think part of the reason is how fun it is to smoke it. i love the way it looks when it starts to puddle up and vaporize. But regardless of that i know people who smoked meth everyday and operated completely normally. Probably mostly because they ate and slept while they were on it.
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Old Nov 28th, 2008, 03:06 PM       
Flyguy sounds like he has a grip on things, I think most of are just saying things he already believes.
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