finding god

[The_Rorschach]

Not to change the subject at all but. . .I tend to be somewhat spartan, and a little harsh, in my outlook, but ideaological in my beliefs -An ideaology which, contrary to my Nietzsche leanings, is rooted in compassion for my fellow man. Practicality wise, I would love nothing more than to cloister this forum off only to those with both an educated and informed base in matters concering politics, philosophy and religion. Ideaologically, I believe with all my heart in the Supreme Law of the Land, which mandates amongst many things, that every man possesses the right to voice their opinion without censorship. That suggests, by innuendo, that the fount of knowledge is drawn from the waters of multiplicity in opinion. So there is an inconsistancy: Fair censorship for the sake of discussion, or freedom of forum for the hope of betterment? I chose what I see as the only accetpable response.

Ironically, it was the most useless person in this forum which forced my decision. I realized that as knee-jerk, worthless and predictable as Vince tends to be, being uneducated, easily swayed and insane in no way revokes his rights. And regardless of whether I respect him, or his views, I have to respect his right to existance and expression. I think that speaks for my feelings regarding obnoxious individuals

As for spammers. .. Advertising has its place, especially in America where our place in the world was established through out economic and technological finesse rather than our political beliefs, but there are limits. I don't believe even the strongest capitalist conviction would try and equate advertising with expression. They are two entirely different animals.

[Sethomas]

Voice: That'd be Vox Dei, if you meant "voice of god".
Ror: Cur dices est "broken" quae scripsi?

[Spectre X]

Originally Posted by Spectre X

Bruce Campbell is God.

and I'll add a second ' ' to that seeing as you still won't understand.

There, I have three now, happy?

FOUR!

[Sethomas]

Submerge your head in water. Inhale.

[FartinMowler]

I can relate to Sspadowski..

I still haven't decided if I believe there is any higher power. There's something wonderfully ironic about the idea that this is all just random chance, and people still try to find proof of a grand designer. If there's some omnipotent force out there that put this all together, I bet it's far different than the human concept of "God." And, if it does exist, it's obviously got a pretty twisted sense of humor.

And even The_Rorschach can surprise...

I'm guilty of many things, worse than that. The best I can manage is to correct myself, and illuminate a better way for others whom might be interested.

Surely you are not suggesting I cannot grow as a person?

Compassion doesn't come easily to everyone, but I'm working on it.

I would like to believe but I have had too many terrible things happen to me in my life and it wasn't god that helped me and he isn't getting the credit thank you.

[Sethomas]

'Cuz God's existence depends on making us feel good, and stuff.

[Zero Signal]

Originally Posted by FartinMowler

I would like to believe but I have had too many terrible things happen to me in my life and it wasn't god that helped me and he isn't getting the credit thank you.

That is some of the saddest bullshit I have heard, and something that so many people say. Do you even hear what you are saying? You had some bad things happen you and when you didn't get a handout from God (when you neither believed in Him nor asked Him for help), you blame Him for it. That is just fantastic.

I "would like to believe" that you "would like to believe", but from what you said above you have no intention of ever believing anything about God. Save your breath next time and just keep your mouth shut before you say something this ignorant again.

[The_Rorschach]

Si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

[Zero Signal]

Originally Posted by The_Rorschach

Si decem habeas linguas, mutum esse addecet.

If I had ten tongues, I would be in pornos.

Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum

[The_Rorschach]

Hey, well, its been two and half semesters since my last Latin coarse. "Lingo Warez" doesn't translate well, so I had to improvise. I suppose I could have said 'many tongued' instead, but I chose ten since that is the number of well known languages out there.

Screw you if you don't like it hippy!

[Zero Signal]

I thought you had it correct. :/

"Even if you had ten tongues, you should hold them all."

[FartinMowler]

[FartinMowler]

[quote]I "would like to believe" that you "would like to believe", but from what you said above you have no intention of ever believing anything about God. [quote]

Well that sure didn't make me want to join..I believe I will go have a cup of coffee and read the comics

[Big Papa Goat]

He has a Constitutional right now only to possess an opinion, but to share it. Would you infringe upon his personal rights simply because you find them undesirable? If so, I would much appreciate you creating a seperate thread so we can discuss the tendancy of liberal philosophy to veer towards totalitarianism.

About the Constitutional Rights thing... isn't this the internet, and isn't the internet a global communications medium? And therefore, aren't the laws of the United States void here? Its not like you can go to England and demand to buy a gun because back in America it was a constitutional right.

Oh ya, and name me a liberal philosophy that veers towards totalitarianism Rorshac.
P.S- Hitler, Soviet Union and Mao= Revolutionary, not liberal.
P.P.S- Please, don't start arguing about gun control, it was just an example.

[Zero Signal]

Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat

About the Constitutional Rights thing... isn't this the internet, and isn't the internet a global communications medium? And therefore, aren't the laws of the United States void here? Its not like you can go to England and demand to buy a gun because back in America it was a constitutional right.

If it is within a particular jurisdiction, then sure, it is applicable.

[VinceZeb]

Oh ya, and name me a liberal philosophy that veers towards totalitarianism Rorshac.
P.S- Hitler, Soviet Union and Mao= Revolutionary, not liberal.

Those items are... not liberal?

The common good comes before the private good.
-- Nazi slogan

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.
-- Hillary Clinton


Hmmm.....

[FS]

Vince, one of the most fascinating things about the nazis is that a surprisingly low percentage of them set themselves on fire. Unless I'm mistaken, you have never set yourself on fire either. Gee, what are you... a NAZI!?!?!??

[VinceZeb]

Nice try.

The last time I checked, setting one's self on fire wasn't a central tenant of believing in the teachings of Buddha.

[Zero Signal]

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

Nice try.

The last time I checked, setting one's self on fire wasn't a central tenant of believing in the teachings of Buddha.

So now you are a Buddhist.

[Big Papa Goat]

The common good comes before the private good.

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.

lib·er·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.

Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States

Where does it say something about the common good?
And the Nazi party may have said that they care more about the common good than the private good, but there actions speak louder than words. Clearly by 'common' good they meant the good of the german race, at the expense of the world, and even within the german people, Nazi policies tended to be favorable towards wealthy businessmen.
I don't want to start another Patriot Act argument, but isn't it sacrificing the rights of individuals in favor of the security of soceity?

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[kellychaos]

The Worker's Party, which Hitler was a part of, was socialist but that doesn't necessarily mean that Hitler himself was. Sometimes leaders will jump into whatever party is on the rise to gain clout and then jump ship after they've established their familiarity. Ya dig?

[Big Papa Goat]

I thought Hitler started the national socialist party? But I dig what your saying, I think thats definitely what Mussolini did.

[kellychaos]

Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat

I thought Hitler started the national socialist party? But I dig what your saying, I think thats definitely what Mussolini did.

It started out as the German Worker's Party. Here's a pretty good link that shows the evolution of the party:

LINK

[The_Rorschach]

Hitler advocated National Socialism buddy, and so do many of the people who see him as something of a modern day messiah.

[FS]

I swear Vince's retorts are rapidly falling apart into just randomly generated words.

Perhaps he is science's first attempt at producing the emotion "impotent rage" in artificial intelligence, but the fact that his system has been active for over 48 hours straight has caused his program to become corrupted. God have mercy on us all.