Warren Buffet talks dividend voodoo

[mburbank]

Well, as usual, you're making me do your leg work for you, but I'll see what I can do.

[Bennett]

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

Bennett, are you going to give anything intelligent to the conversation or just say something idiotic?

I must remind you of the people that beat you up at school, Bennett. Except I am more intelligent than you as well as physically stronger.

number 3.

number 5.

how intelligent are you that if I were to spend any amount of time on it, I could map out a complete and total guide that would effectively predict any of your future posts on this message board?

own that.

[mburbank]

OMG, someone needs to write an Eliza style computer program that simulates Vinth!

[VinceZeb]

If you sit around and predict what I say, then you are more pathetic than I could ever even try to be.

[mburbank]

Alll that means is you're llazy and can't try very hard and we already knew that.

It wasn't exactly a major effort on his part, you are exceedingly predictable.

[VinceZeb]

Max, you are just as predictable as me.

You are going to say Vinth as some funny geek in-joke.

You are going to make some baseless assumption and avoid the question.

You will insult me against attacking my points 5 to 1.

[mburbank]

Am I predictable?

"You are going to say Vinth as some funny geek in-joke."

Wrong. It's not an 'in-joke' by any strecth of the imagination. I made it up to annoy you, which it does, and becuase you put me in mind of Daffy Duck. Since I've haven't shared tht with anyone until now, it wasn't an in-joke before, and since I've now publicly stated my reason and inlcuded you, it can't be an in-joke anymore. Unless you had some personal deffinition of 'in-joke', or simply meant something else by saying it.

"You are going to make some baseless assumption and avoid the question."


The assumption I just made about you using the wrong words is hardly baseless, in that you do it quite frequently. Unless you had some private deffinition of 'baseless' or simply meant something else by saying it.

"You will insult me against attacking my points 5 to 1."

While I admit I am also insulting you, I adressed both of your first two points and by doing so adress your third. It's called multi-tasking. As to the ratio you propose, I haven't really counted, but I'd say the insult/attacking of points split is closer to fifty-fifty.

In this last post for instance, while doing none of the things you predicted, I 'attacked' all three of you points.

Unless you had some private deffinition of 'predictable' or simply meant something else by saying it.

[kellychaos]

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

I don't fight just for multimillionaires. I fight for everyone who is overburden with the task of taking care of people that refuse to do anything for themselves. They didn't ask to take care of them, why should they?

The claim of "trickle down" economics is that the rich, when given a tax break, will reinvest/reinvigorate the economy to provide for the unemployed and/or disenfranchised. By that logic, wouldn't the money be going, indirectly, to those same people, Vinth?

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

There is a BIG difference between the mentally and physically handicapped that CANNOT do one single thing that is productive and people who can that flat-out refuse to. The govt is an inefficient machine. The govt should not bend to only my whim, but the govt should not screw over the people who make the country go. That is WRONG. It is IMMORAL.

So all this money saved in the tax cut is going to go to those people who ARE willing to put in their 40+ hours in the form of profit sharing checks and NOT to the leaders of corporate America. Yeah ... lots of luck there!

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

People like me will go out and do the violence to protect the elitist assholes like yourself.

So your found your submariner letter, Vinth?!

Originally Posted by VinceZeb

Here I am the minority that can hold his own.

Did I miss a key day on the board? When did THAT start happening?

[VinceZeb]

Kelly, moron, learn what the govt considers rich! 70,000 a year to the govt is considered rich. Do you believe that is a "rich" person? It is obvious you are not known for your intelligence.

Blow your class warfare crap out of your ass, Kelly. Your just another ignorant liberal tool, no matter how much you want to deny it.

[mburbank]

Vinth, $70,000 is more than my family's income, and unlike you, I think of myself as middle class. I do this by looking at people who actually live in poverty and seeing how much easier my life is than theirs. Far from being bitter about those better off than I as you constantly insist, I'm very grateful to be as well off as I am. My children aren't hungry, my family has health benefits through my job. We own our own home and a car. We've worked very hard to achieve these things. I don't know why people who are poor fill you with rage, even junkies, drunkards, those with lots of children and illegal imigrants. The money they get from my paycheck is a small thing I think of as part of being an American Citizen. Sure, beyond my vote I have no choice if I intend to obey the law, but money to social security, welfare, WIC, etc. just doesn't upset me the way it does you, because even if it's abused (you know, the way the Pentagon abuses it's budget sometimes) some of that money goes to feed hungry kids, and I think that's okay. It doesn't fill me with loathing and rage. I don't know why it does that to you. I would suggest somke form of political advocacy. Or donate money to Politicians who share your views, or time.

I'm not sure what your major is, but you may be very surpirsed when you get out of... wherever it is you go... just how hard it is to reach even that $70,000.00 mark. You may even find it hard to get a job. Who knows, the day may come when $70,000.00 seems like a hell of a lot of money to you. I know you like to be cocky, but don't be sure it won't happen. Pride goeth before the fall.

[kilmie polanski]

just how hard it is to reach even that $70,000.00 mark. You may even find it hard to get a job. Who knows, the day may come when $70,000.00 seems like a hell of a lot of money to you. I know you like to be cocky, but don't be sure it won't happen. Pride goeth before the fall.

Exactly...hey vincey, if one earns less than $70, 000, he/she doesn't automatically fall into that category of "slackers, and whores, and bums *oh my*"; a person can be competent enough, like max, to support any financial burden that comes his/her way. I know where you're comin from vince,as my whole family is composed of right wing hawks; you're voicing the opinion of your grand old party. good boy. And i'm not saying i disagree with you wholly, but you're not being very realistic.

Mostly, i just see you as a pompous hot tempered asshole, worthy of your Stan avatar. i just want to nail you in a coffin.

[Zhukov]

Glad I read this thread. I don't want to slot into any niche here, but...

"You would have been a good fit in the heyday of the Communist control of Russia."


Nice job of sliping this one in.
I am guessing you are refering to Stalinist Russia. If you are, what does your sentence mean?


"you are a socialist.... You, therefore, are an idiot..."

"I know one thing I am not, which is a socialist fool such as you."

".....elitist assholes like yourself."

"I'm sorry that I'm not a big liberal idiot like you"

Can you be a Socialist Liberal? Can you be an Elite Socialist Liberal? I know you can't be an Elitist Socialist. I am Socialist, what is Liberal? What makes me an idiot for being Socialist? DO you know what Socialism is yet?


"Idiot"
"Fool"
"Asshole"
"Idiot"


"That is why he has to insult and degrade me. It's the standard liberal tactic."


"Blow your class warfare crap out of your ass, Kelly. Your just another ignorant liberal tool, no matter how much you want to deny it."

Why don't you blow your "Libertarian" crap out of your arse?

I am not a smart person, and I don't really know what 'Liberal' is but I will make a guess and state that they probably don't support the armed revolution over Capitalism. If they do, however, support the Class War, hooray for the Liberals.

I'm sure you would 'love' to respond to my questions, but you are probably too tired. However if you want to " do the violence ", then step outside - I hear you punch like a girl.


Fuck you, cocksmoker.

[AChimp]

$70,000 per year already puts you close to the upper middle-class, in which case you are extremely well off. So says Corporate America and their army of marketers.

[VinceZeb]

You all beneath me when it comes to this argument. If you don't make 70,000 a year, it doesnt mean you are dirty or stupid. How much money you make has nothing to do with this. If you are someone who works hard and is self-reliant and makes 23,000 a year, well good for you.

I do not like people who mooch off the government, which in turn means they are mooching off my hard work. If you are not struck with tragedy, physical or mental disabilities, have no desire to make a ton of money, or are a child/teenager and you STILL have yet to get on your own and do for yourself, you are lazy and a parasite.

[Sethomas]

Ah, so now there are stipulations and exceptions.

Dipshit.

[AChimp]

or are a child/teenager and you STILL have yet to get on your own and do for yourself, you are lazy and a parasite.

Children and teenagers are parasites for living with their parents?

I'd say that all children and teenagers are better off living at home. Of all the people here, I thought that Vinth would be the one to stand up for family values.

[Miss Modular]

AChimp made me

[Zhukov]

I do not like people who mooch off the government, which in turn means they are mooching off my hard work.

The biggest "moochers" off of your hard work are not those on welfare:

http://www.newyouth.com/archives/wor...k_reminder.asp

Samuel Lynbrook

August 15, 2001

Recently, I recieved a raise in pay, a grand fifty cents which brought my hourly wage up from $6.00 to $6.25. Working in a photo lab in a Florida Eckerds, (a drug store chain owned by JC Pennies) what do you expect? Of course, this is where being a Marxist always gets you in trouble. I expect the capitalist class which leeches off of humanity to be overthrown.

I have always been aware that I was and still am being grossly exploited by the capitalists, but never before had I done the math! (Of course the following numbers are approximations in many cases, such as hourly wages of co-workers and so on.) Opening a binder in the back of the photo lab labled "finance" I found many statistics dealing with the profit and expenses of the lab. Namely the Gross profit.

Gross profit for April: $16,200.00, and a few lines down the word "usage" with $4500.00 written to the left of it. I am assuming that is the cost for that month to keep the lab running; (the cost of chemicals for the machines, paper for printing photos, etc.). At that time I made $6.00 an hour, and worked 20 hours a week, as did two other employees. The manager of the lab makes $17.50 and works 50 hours a week.

If you do the math Eckerds pays out $5,000 a month in wages to the photo workers; $500 for myself and two other employees and $3,500 to the manager, leaving them with a nice profit of $6700 a month, which is just one lab of well over one thousdand locations.

Now, if you were to add up the total hours worked by all employees (including the manager) and divide the Gross profit, minus the cost of running the lab, you will find the amount of wealth produced by a worker in an hour. In this case the formula looks like this: $16,200.00 - $4500.00 = 11,700.00/440 = $26.60. The wealth we create every hour is worth $26.00, yet I was being paid $6.00. Every hour I was being robbed of $20.60. Just a friendly reminder of why those capitalists have such nice fancy cars and houses.

Samuel Lynbrook,
August 2001