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Old Jan 10th, 2005, 06:19 PM        mp3s skipping
i've got a 20GB secondary drive in my PC that is filled with only mp3s. whenever i play files from the drive, they stutter and slightly skip a bit. the mp3s i put there were fine to begin with, and i know they haven't been corrupted because if i copy them from the 20GB drive (F and paste them on my C: drive or ipod, they play back fine. i'm thinking it might be a bad IDE cable or something? they're both NTFS if that matters at all. anybody ever encounter this before?
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Old Jan 10th, 2005, 06:21 PM       
If could help if you increase the buffer size in WinAMP or whatever program you use.
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Old Jan 10th, 2005, 07:21 PM       
didn't help at all
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Old Jan 10th, 2005, 09:01 PM       
ar you using a dial up modem? for some reason that caused sound on my pc to do the same effects that you described
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Old Jan 10th, 2005, 09:20 PM       
I haven't used a dial-up modem for years, but i know the sound you're talking about. It's similar to that but far more subtle, yet equally as annoying. This problem only occurs when files are played back from this particular hard drive. When the same files are copied to another destination, they play fine. I tried defragmented the drive, but that didn't do any good either. I've got another IDE cable around here somewhere so i'm going to give that a shot.
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Old Jan 10th, 2005, 10:19 PM       
is it jumpered right
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 08:50 AM       
Defrag? :/
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 02:57 PM       
Check for programs running in the background like "seti @home" (if you have it) or virus scanners (anti virus programs) the more stuff running in the background =less system resources for more demanding apps (wmp, multimedia-games ect.)
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 03:43 PM       
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I would assume so. Would it even function if it wasn't? I'm gonna definitely double check this though... I'm just so lazy when it comes to opening up the tower... I'll put it off as long as possible.

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...to another destination, they play fine. I tried defragmenting the drive, but that didn't do any good either. I've got another IDE...
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Thanks Alive! That really worked!
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 08:02 PM       
i think i remember having performance issues only when it was not jumpered right, maybe it was from having both drives set to master :/
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 08:39 PM       
Opened it up and the jumper was set correctly. I decided to try every other combination anyway just for fun and, not surprisingly, it still didn't help. Swapped IDE cables, still the same problem. I'm ready to accept that this drive is just a piece of shit.
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 08:53 PM       
What kind of drive is it? something pulled out of an old POS pc?
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 09:06 PM       
The drive is probably slower than your main drive. As far as I know, as well, slave drives run slower than master drives because they are sharing the same IDE channel. Your main HD is still being accessed while Winamp is playing the MP3, and if you don't have a lot of RAM, there will be more disk accesses.
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 11:12 PM       
It basicly comes down to a data access problem, it very well may be that the drive you have your mp3's on is maxed out to capacity and windows likes to have a few megs left over to work with when it comes to virtual memory and read/write functions.
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Old Jan 11th, 2005, 11:42 PM       
Alive: No.

AChimp: If that were the case, wouldn't the problem only occur if my computer was doing system demanding tasks? I really doubt that this is an issue with resources. My computer is by no means top shit, but this issue occurs all the time, and always the same way (no varying degrees).

I'm doing the XP "Disk Checker" thing now (is this just Scan Disk?) and it's taking forever. Not that I think this will really tell me anything useful.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 12:15 AM       
Try adding more RAM. I had a similar problem until i added more (128 + 128) and upgraded from win98.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 01:14 AM       
Yeah, you'd expect something like that to only happen when you're running lots of stuff... RAM might be the problem like Ninja said.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 10:57 AM       
If you're able to play mp3's from your primary drive, adding more RAM isn't likely to be the solution. Adding more RAM is still never a bad idea, though. How do you currently have the drive set up (Primary Slave, Secondary Master/Slave)? Do you know the drive's specs (speed, cache)? How old is this drive? Was the problem fixed earlier by closing TSR's and background apps? What did the XP Disk Checker find (it's most likely running chkdsk)? Any bad sectors?

"Back in the day", mp3 playback was considered extremely resource-intensive, but if your machine is anywhere near recent, you shouldn't have any problems playing mp3's. Likewise, if your machine runs windows XP and has at least 128MB RAM (although I wouldn't recommend anything less than 256MB), you shouldn't have any problems playing mp3's.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 11:39 AM       
Move all the MP3s onto another HDD -> Do a low level format of the 20gig -> move them back.

That might do it. :/
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 03:46 PM       
It's the Secondary Master in my system. The drive is a 20GB QUANTUM FIREBALL. It's not super new, and I see what you're saying, but this isn't a 2GB relic from the Pentium II days. This drive should not be struggling with .mp3 playback. Background apps have nothing to do with this problem, and Windows did not find any errors on the drive. Again, I don't see how RAM would be an issue if the same files play back fine from the other drive. I'll get around to formatting the drive eventually, but my other drive doesn't have enough space for all 20GB, so it won't be anytime soon.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 03:54 PM       
I expect you could save a few GB by RARing up the albums. Or you could use this as an excuse to buy yourself a nice new 20gb IPOD (or similar mp3 player) and use that for temp storage while you format.

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You could download sisoft saundra (sp?), i believe that has utilities for testing HDD speed etc. It also gives you tips on how to improve performace which might help. :/
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 04:47 PM       
Hmm...

I have my doubts as to how much you'd be able to compress mp3's. You're right, though, in that you shouldn't have a problem playing mp3's from that drive at all. If you have a CD-RW drive and a spindle o' CD's, you could always just back them up to CD and try reformatting. If you don't have a CD-RW drive, well, fortunately they're relatively affordable. For what it's worth, I too have a Quantum Fireball 20GB drive (or, in my case, had) that held all of my emulators and ROMs. It has since died, and has been reduced to nothing more than a shiny paperweight. Ever since that fiasco, I have come to the conclusion that Quantum drives are a useless waste of cash (and while I'm at it, be wary of purchasing Maxtor drives, you may end up with a Quantum drive instead). If you haven't backed up your mp3 collection, I'd do so ASAP.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 08:11 PM       
maybe run quantum/maxtor drive diagnostics.

pretty sure xp enables dma and write caching automatically, so that probaly wont help, but you can check in device manager

sorry i didnt read much else so i might have missed if you tried these things.
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Old Jan 12th, 2005, 08:23 PM       
Have you tried playing the Mp3s with any other program than Winamp? What version is your winamp? Winamp 5 uses a lot more RAM than the previous versions, so you might want to try an older one.
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